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U.S. Military launching new machine gun in .338 Norma
Posted on 5/23/21 at 9:53 am
Posted on 5/23/21 at 9:53 am
Military Times
they say it has similar effects as the 50BMG at 1/4 the weight
they say it has similar effects as the 50BMG at 1/4 the weight
This post was edited on 5/23/21 at 11:03 am
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Posted on 5/23/21 at 10:05 am to TrueTiger
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new machine gun in .338 Norma
That link didn't work for me so I couldn't read it, but did the Sig offering win out?
I remember reading about the 3 they were gonna pick from and thought the Sig was pretty damn cool. I remember one of the others was gonna use plastic casings or something weird to reduce weight.
This post was edited on 5/23/21 at 10:06 am
Posted on 5/23/21 at 10:48 am to IAmNERD
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2020 the U.S. Special Operations Command awarded Sig Sauer a contract, ordering the MG-338 machine gun chambered in .338 Norma Magnum. [10]
Wiki
Posted on 5/23/21 at 11:03 am to IAmNERD
link corrected
Posted on 5/23/21 at 11:29 am to TrueTiger
Look for a trend to then standardize around .338 for precision weapons and crew served. Every time they add something like this, the ordnance baws scream, "Hey - how many cartridges do you guys want to stock?"
And they're right. A typical gun guy might have 8 to 10 long guns in 4 or 5 calibers (counting shotguns). That's daunting enough. With hundreds of thousands small arms and billions of rounds processed every year, the Army and Marine Corps have a logistics challenge of an entirely different scope.
And they're right. A typical gun guy might have 8 to 10 long guns in 4 or 5 calibers (counting shotguns). That's daunting enough. With hundreds of thousands small arms and billions of rounds processed every year, the Army and Marine Corps have a logistics challenge of an entirely different scope.
This post was edited on 5/23/21 at 11:30 am
Posted on 5/23/21 at 11:59 am to TrueTiger
Christ, are there ANY squad level firearms in use made by an American company?
Posted on 5/23/21 at 12:55 pm to Shiftyplus1
Nerf?
Posted on 5/23/21 at 1:10 pm to Ace Midnight
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With hundreds of thousands small arms and billions of rounds processed every year, the Army and Marine Corps have a logistics challenge of an entirely different scope.
Don't tell me how to live my life.
Posted on 5/23/21 at 6:02 pm to TrueTiger
Wonder if they'll make that with this short of a barrel?
quote:Does he have brothers named Raymond and Charlie?
Army Col. Joel Babbitt — program executive officer for SOF Warrior
This post was edited on 5/23/21 at 6:13 pm
Posted on 5/23/21 at 8:59 pm to Ace Midnight
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Look for a trend to then standardize around .338 for precision weapons and crew served. Every time they add something like this, the ordnance baws scream, "Hey - how many cartridges do you guys want to stock?"
That would be fine. From what I've read the Norma is at least equal to the Lapua for long range and would be a good replacement for the 7.62/.308 machine guns.
But I don't get the .50 comparison. The article says it has similar terminal effects, even on vehicles, but the energy numbers aren't even close; you're talking about a third of the energy of a .50 cal. If it really does what the article claims, great, because the .50 just isn't feasible for dismounted anything, but I'd like to see an explanation for how the bullet performs that well.
Posted on 5/23/21 at 9:06 pm to Flats
quote:But the female Navy Seal Commanders will be able to use it when they lead their men into battle.
The article says it has similar terminal effects, even on vehicles, but the energy numbers aren't even close; you're talking about a third of the energy of a .50 cal.
Posted on 5/23/21 at 9:07 pm to Flats
It doesn't, this round is not a heavy MG replacement. This pretty much covers everything below that role though, light and medium machine-guns.
Posted on 5/23/21 at 11:07 pm to Shiftyplus1
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are there ANY squad level firearms in use made by an American company?
Blame the shitty, stubborn dumbass leadership of companies like Colt, Remington, and others.
This post was edited on 9/10/21 at 5:33 am
Posted on 5/24/21 at 1:18 am to TrueTiger
There's no way it can compete with the M2 in any way except less weight. They're not comparable.
Posted on 5/24/21 at 7:45 am to GardenDistrictTiger
Look at this round the same as the 9mm vs .45 or the .223 vs .308
Soldiers will be able to carry more rounds with the same weight.
The .338 nm is a very good long range round and would be very good on personnel.
Soldiers will be able to carry more rounds with the same weight.
The .338 nm is a very good long range round and would be very good on personnel.
Posted on 5/24/21 at 7:50 am to TrueTiger
But can it drop a buck at 200 yards as good as a .223 can? That's all the OB is worried about 
This post was edited on 5/24/21 at 7:51 am
Posted on 5/24/21 at 8:27 am to TrueTiger
How much is this costing us the tax payers and what is the justification besides a higher grade on some virtual war games?
Posted on 5/24/21 at 8:37 am to TrueTiger
Posted on 5/24/21 at 9:17 am to Jack Ruby
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Blame the shitty, stubborn dumbass leadership of companies like Colt, Remington, and others for not being able to submit competent, innovative arms for government contracts anymore and not the other companies with a foreign name.
Actually, Colt submitted a very innovative design for the USMC IAR request. Of course, politics took over and they awarded H&K the contract.
Posted on 5/24/21 at 11:40 am to TrueTiger
Interesting article until I got to the 6.5CM. Don't see all the fuss with this caliber.
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