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re: The Fly Fishing Thread: Questions, pics, discussion all here

Posted on 4/20/16 at 9:42 am to
Posted by Barf
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Posted on 4/20/16 at 9:42 am to
quote:

really just want to get out on the water with it and get used to casting and whatnot


Then use his entire rig or swap his 9wt line onto your reel.

Reel sizes are based off backing capacity. You're not going to have a red run into your backing anyway so if you insist on using your own reel, just swap his 9wt fly line onto it.
Posted by PapaPogey
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 4/20/16 at 9:44 am to
Okay I'll just use his setup so I don't have to frick with it. Thanks man
Posted by AubieALUMdvm
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 4/20/16 at 10:36 am to
This is a good plan. have you been watching the casting videos?
Posted by PapaPogey
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 4/20/16 at 10:49 am to
No, did you link some? I
Posted by JumpingTheShark
America
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Posted on 4/20/16 at 11:25 am to
LINK

EDIT: Also looks like this video is in the OP.

This is the video that I imitated to teach me how to cast. You don't have to watch the entire thing, the beginning has the basics, but I still watch this one a lot.

One thing I found useful when learning to cast was I first went to the park by my house just before dusk and put a little piece of yarn on the end of my leader and practiced casting at light or dark patches of grass, or anything that could serve as a target. You can get the basic motions down and get some distance, but accuracy will be just as important. Timing is everything. It is hard to teach and after a few hours of casting you just start to feel it (i.e. knowing when to bring your loop back and bring it forward, based on how much line is out). For this, I started off by letting out some line, not a ton, and only using one hand. I kept my index finger on the line and watched by back cast all the way through. This helped me get a feeling for my timing, and when I got comfy with that, I started using two hands to try and shoot the line. The effect of using one hand at first made it sort of like a Tenkara rod, which is a fly rod that doesn't have a reel and is accuracy-based (i.e. you only have a certain amount of line and have to pin point where to cast it). This was helpful for getting the feel for the mechanics.

This is a Tenkara casting video and kind of shows what I meant by starting off with one hand and getting the feel down.

LINK

This is just to try and visualize what I meant by starting off with one hand.
This post was edited on 4/20/16 at 11:33 am
Posted by AubieALUMdvm
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 4/20/16 at 11:30 am to
The OP has many links for this stuff. In addition to the videos I always have people start small - don't go out and try to cast a hundred yards like you're Brad Pitt on A River Runs Through It. At least 90% of the fish I catch are less than 20 ft away from me.

This may be a bit different for saltwater.
This post was edited on 4/20/16 at 11:34 am
Posted by sloopy
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 4/20/16 at 3:01 pm to
Is there really that much difference between the Allen kraken and the alpha iii
Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 4/20/16 at 3:19 pm to
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PapaPogey

Main things to remember:

Keep your wrist straight

wait on the line to straighten out behind you before you begin your forward cast.

If you can do those two things you will have it mastered in no time.
Posted by Saskwatch
Member since Feb 2016
18196 posts
Posted on 4/20/16 at 3:22 pm to
The Kraken has a sealed drag. The Alpha III doesn't. If its going to see a lot of saltwater use I think the extra $50 is worth it for a sealed drag. FWIW I found my kraken on ebay brand new in box for $150 if you are limited to a strict budget.
Posted by Barf
EBR
Member since Feb 2015
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Posted on 4/20/16 at 4:00 pm to
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Is there really that much difference between the Allen kraken and the alpha iii


There is an Alpha III sitting on my desk that is locked up from a failed drag from a single fish and I've seen another one bind up with a bent frame from a small drop in the boat. I can only guess that they vary from run to run depending on who's working the production line in China that day.

Can't really speak for the Kraken, but people seem to really like them. Especially if you can catch them on sale.

Having witnessed just about every gear failure imaginable, Allen Alpha is the only reel I've seen fail twice.
Posted by reds on reds on reds
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 4/20/16 at 4:06 pm to
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This post was edited on 4/20/16 at 4:19 pm
Posted by reds on reds on reds
Member since Sep 2013
4951 posts
Posted on 4/20/16 at 4:25 pm to
Should I get an Einarsson 8 plus or Tibor Signature Series?
Or any other recommendations around that price. I'm about ready to buy a new reel but can't make up my damn mind on what I want.
Posted by PapaPogey
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 4/20/16 at 4:35 pm to
You not happy with your Allen or what?
Posted by reds on reds on reds
Member since Sep 2013
4951 posts
Posted on 4/20/16 at 4:56 pm to
quote:

You not happy with your Allen or what?



I definitely am.

Just got my tax return in and I'm gonna splurge a little on a new combo
Posted by AubieALUMdvm
Member since Oct 2011
11713 posts
Posted on 4/20/16 at 5:58 pm to
One reason of many I am a Lamson reels guy. All of them made with sealed conical drags.
Posted by sloopy
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 4/20/16 at 6:10 pm to
Touché. Not in the market now per se, but will be in 2 years when I move back to the coast. However, if I catch one on sale I can always find a reason to grab one.
Posted by Dam Guide
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 4/20/16 at 7:22 pm to
Anyone ever fish around Tybee Island? Taking my daughter to the beach for the first time and got a little house with a dock on the backside of the island. Thinking of bringing the yak and doing some fishing. Any tips and spots to check out that way would be great.
Posted by Barf
EBR
Member since Feb 2015
3727 posts
Posted on 4/20/16 at 7:45 pm to
Pretty good fishing on the flat by Fort Pulaski, but you will have to time it right. Casting at tailers in the flood tide is pretty kick arse. Never fished the area in a kayak, only a skiff or on foot.
Posted by bluemoons
the marsh
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 4/20/16 at 7:49 pm to
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Casting at tailers in the flood tide is pretty kick arse.


I don't really have any desire to fish for redfish anywhere other than LA with the exception of SC. I'll put up with less fish for a chance to cast at those fish in that flood tide marsh. It looks awesome.
Posted by sloopy
Member since Aug 2009
6907 posts
Posted on 4/20/16 at 7:57 pm to
Tybee has some of the most beautiful tidal marsh that I have ever seen. Was down that way last summer for a conference, but didn't get to wet a line. There was so much fishy looking water it was driving me wild.
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