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Solid Copper Ammunition

Posted on 11/5/19 at 11:35 am
Posted by SCwTiger
armpit of 'merica
Member since Aug 2014
5857 posts
Posted on 11/5/19 at 11:35 am
Anyone have any input on the solid copper ammo? Just sighted my 308 in with Federal Premium 165 gr. Trophy Copper for the first time. Yet to see what it does to a deer. I just thought I'd try something other than Remington PSP's I've shot for years. They don't always pass through and I'm now hunting where DRT is a must.
They are advertised as having very high weight retention, which amounts to good penetration.
TIA for advice.
Posted by Cypressknee
Member since Jul 2017
1197 posts
Posted on 11/5/19 at 11:46 am to
Going on my 3rd or 4th season shooting Barnes Vortex 150gr in my .308 and love them. Weight retention is great and I’ve yet to shoot another bullet that has the penetration of this round. No plans to change here.
Posted by ChatRabbit77
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2013
5861 posts
Posted on 11/5/19 at 12:10 pm to
Been shooting Barnes for years. It's incredible.
Posted by ducksnbass
Member since Apr 2014
754 posts
Posted on 11/5/19 at 12:14 pm to
quote:

where DRT is a must.


No bullet is going to guarantee that. That's all shot placement.
Posted by SCwTiger
armpit of 'merica
Member since Aug 2014
5857 posts
Posted on 11/5/19 at 12:24 pm to
quote:

No bullet is going to guarantee that. That's all shot placement.
Yessir, I'm aware of that.
Posted by bayoudude
Member since Dec 2007
24958 posts
Posted on 11/5/19 at 12:30 pm to
My only experience is with the 110 grain tac-tx in 300 blackout performed excellent on the two hogs my son and I killed. Complete pass through at 70 yds on a 200+ lb boar shot high shoulder mine was a 70 lb sow shot in the neck both pigs drt bang flops
Posted by mylsuhat
Mandeville, LA
Member since Mar 2008
48940 posts
Posted on 11/5/19 at 12:31 pm to
quote:

DRT
Dead Right There?

Dropped Right There?

Dirt Road Tumble?

Epstein Didn't Kill Himself!
This post was edited on 11/5/19 at 12:31 pm
Posted by bayoudude
Member since Dec 2007
24958 posts
Posted on 11/5/19 at 12:35 pm to
Dead right there

Posted by Carson123987
Middle Court at the Rec
Member since Jul 2011
66436 posts
Posted on 11/5/19 at 12:44 pm to
Barnes GOAT
Posted by SCwTiger
armpit of 'merica
Member since Aug 2014
5857 posts
Posted on 11/5/19 at 1:06 pm to
Looks like the consensus is Barnes. I'll have to try those. Thx
Posted by BayouTiger71
Pineville, LA
Member since Dec 2004
157 posts
Posted on 11/5/19 at 1:25 pm to
I have used 270 Federal Premium ammunition for years. At first, it was 110 or 130 grain ammo with Barnes TSX copper bullets. This ammo was the most accurate and devastating ammo ever. Federal discontinued using the Barnes TSX bullets, and provided the Trophy Cooper ammo (which was similar in accuracy and performance).

I am retired but worked as a natural resource professional for many years. However, I did hot select the copper bullet ammo over lead for environmental reasons, but rather because of the accuracy and performance. A 130 g copper bullet is larger than a 130 g lead bullet, and would therefore have more knockdown energy.

However, lead bullets are likewise great with accuracy and performance, but my rifle loves the copper ammo.
Posted by Got Blaze
Youngsville
Member since Dec 2013
8754 posts
Posted on 11/5/19 at 1:37 pm to
Solid copper bullets have been around a long time and designed for controlled expansion. Upon impact, the bullet opens like petals with very minimal weight loss or bullet fragmentation.

Rize shot this nilgai (est. wt. 575-600 lbs) with his 300WM, recovered X bullets pictured below. Both were found underneath the skin on opposite side of bullet entry. The nilgai skin was 3/8" thick and the bullet would likely have exited on a smaller 100+ lbs. white tail or pig.



Posted by bapple
Capital City
Member since Oct 2010
11892 posts
Posted on 11/5/19 at 2:29 pm to
Another vote for Barnes.

My dad has hunted deer his entire life and has never been more impressed with a bullet than when he loaded some Barnes TTSX. He said the blood trails have always been good if the animal even manages to run off. In most scenarios they should be DRT.
Posted by Buster180
Member since Jun 2017
1455 posts
Posted on 11/5/19 at 2:53 pm to
quote:

At first, it was 110 or 130 grain ammo with Barnes TSX copper bullets. 


I have been shooting Barnes 130 grain out of my .270 for several years now. Sometimes I think that these bullets are too tough for small deer as expansion isn't always great.

I would like to try some 110 grain copper ammo but no one seems to make it anymore.
Posted by bayoudude
Member since Dec 2007
24958 posts
Posted on 11/5/19 at 3:04 pm to
Most info points to using 10-20 grain smaller bullet than comparable lead due to the weight retention. You will most likely have to load your own for 270 in the 110 grain ttsx
Posted by Buster180
Member since Jun 2017
1455 posts
Posted on 11/5/19 at 3:08 pm to
Can you or anyone else recommend a custom ammo place that would sell them?

I hit a buck right in the vitals once with the Barnes 130 grain and the exit wound was pencil sized. He only went 50 yards but it made me wonder what would happen if I hit one in the guts.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81645 posts
Posted on 11/5/19 at 3:18 pm to
quote:

They don't always pass through and I'm now hunting where DRT is a must
I have found that shots slightly high(still in vitals) drop them dead. Some kind of nerve bundle or plexus or somesuch.
Posted by Huntinguy
Member since Mar 2011
1752 posts
Posted on 11/5/19 at 3:51 pm to
quote:

I have been shooting Barnes 130 grain out of my .270 for several years now. Sometimes I think that these bullets are too tough for small deer as expansion isn't always great.




I shot this exact load for several years, and killed a pile of deer with it. 130 grain TTSX.

Then over the course of a couple of years, I lost two deer with it, I believe due to inadequate expansion. Both were eventually found <100 yards from the shot, but there was zero blood.

I was shooting for a high lung shot, and they'll sometimes run 70-100 yards, but never far. There was zero blood either time.

The round shot phenomenally well out of my rifle too, really liked it.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
66763 posts
Posted on 11/5/19 at 3:58 pm to
I sighted in my AR with barnes X bullets, I figure if I ever need it for a spare rifle that'd be my best chance. Never felt the need to use them in my other rifles.

I've seen them used on deer in 7mm08 and 300 win mag. I havent been overly impressed with them, I think deer are too light to open them up reliably unless you hit bone or have them scooting along really fast.
Posted by Buster180
Member since Jun 2017
1455 posts
Posted on 11/5/19 at 5:07 pm to
quote:

I was shooting for a high lung shot, and they'll sometimes run 70-100 yards, but never far. There was zero blood either time.


I have killed 15-20 deer with them and only had one "bad" experience but it makes me wonder.

Curious, what did you switch to?
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