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re: Solid Copper Ammunition
Posted on 11/5/19 at 5:35 pm to BayouTiger71
Posted on 11/5/19 at 5:35 pm to BayouTiger71
quote:
A 130 g copper bullet is larger than a 130 g lead bullet, and would therefore have more knockdown energy.
How so? 130g of mass is 130g of mass. All of the energy calculators I've seen use two numbers, mass (in grains) and velocity. I agree the copper bullet will be longer (larger) but it still weighs the same. Is there something I'm missing?
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Posted on 11/5/19 at 5:53 pm to Buster180
I have had a bad experience with a few bullets, but never a corelok...I dont know why I continue to go away from them
Posted on 11/5/19 at 5:55 pm to Tigerhead
Not in my mind.
Posted on 11/5/19 at 6:02 pm to BayouTiger71
quote:
A 130 g copper bullet is larger than a 130 g lead bullet, and would therefore have more knockdown energy.
- .277 diameter is still .277 diameter.
- 130 grains is still 130 grains.
- bullet OAL could possibly be longer resulting in a higher ballistic coefficient which does not equal more knockdown power.
- if the diameter is > .277 then you would see major accuracy and safety issues trying to fit a .280 projectile down a steel .277 bore.
if your facts are correct, I want whatever you're smoking b/c I've been doing it all wrong
Posted on 11/5/19 at 6:51 pm to Buster180
quote:
I hit a buck right in the vitals once with the Barnes 130 grain and the exit wound was pencil sized. He only went 50 yards but it made me wonder what would happen if I hit one in the guts.
I hit a 6pt in the vitals and watched it run 100 yds then out of site in a cutover. Not a drop of blood or hair on the ground. I found it the next morning when the buzzards flew up. I followed his tracks in the dirt and then just walked around with no sign.
I shot a doe 2 years ago with a complete pass through and no blood trail. She went 60yds.
I was using the 130gr Tsx and switched to the 110gr TTSX in my 270wsm. It demolishes them.
Posted on 11/5/19 at 8:44 pm to Huntinguy
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I was shooting for a high lung shot, and they'll sometimes run 70-100 yards, but never far. There was zero blood either time.
That's not unusual. A deer shot high in the lungs (closer to the spine) generally will not leave as good a blood trail as a deer shot lower in the lungs; the top of the lung (and the rear portion of the lung, as well) is not as vascular as other parts of the lungs. If a high lung shot doesn't damage the spine, the deer will run a distance and may not bleed well.
Posted on 11/5/19 at 10:09 pm to SCwTiger
I’ve been shooting all different types of hand loads for years and Barnes TTSX are meant for speed and speed only. Shoot the smallest grain possible and the results are devastating. For example Your wasting your time shooting them out of a slow 6.5 creed. You need to get over 3300fps with this projectile and you will loose a lot less deer.
Posted on 11/5/19 at 11:01 pm to Buster180
Lost that .270 and bought a 6.5 Creedmore. 143 ELD-X last year with great results.
Posted on 11/6/19 at 10:57 am to SCwTiger
I shoot Underwood 300 blackout subsonic for hogs. Its all copper with a Lehigh Defense 194Grn bullets. Have no issues killing hogs within 100 yds. Also use the Barnes Vor-TX for deer.
The technology going into these all copper rounds offers maximum wound channels where its needed. I would have no quams using any of the major brands all copper ammo.
S
The technology going into these all copper rounds offers maximum wound channels where its needed. I would have no quams using any of the major brands all copper ammo.
S
This post was edited on 11/6/19 at 10:59 am
Posted on 11/6/19 at 11:07 am to AlxTgr
Posted on 11/6/19 at 11:27 am to AlxTgr
Nice article. I have always been a fan of the high front edge of the shoulder shot. Gives you a large target and I haven’t had one run yet. Growing up marsh hunting the traditional behind the shoulder shot was a no go unless you felt like getting wet and having to drag 100+ yds to the trenause
Posted on 11/6/19 at 11:28 am to AlxTgr
Core-loks have always served me well.I’ve killed deer from 25 yards to to 250 yards and they have all exited unless I hit the spine or liver.In those cases the deer didn’t go anywhere.If I would change to anything else it would be Nosler Partition.
Now for hogs I can see the value of the copper bullets,Coreloks seldom exit a hog that’s 100 lbs or greater.
Now for hogs I can see the value of the copper bullets,Coreloks seldom exit a hog that’s 100 lbs or greater.
Posted on 11/6/19 at 12:21 pm to LSUA 75
I've been trying to load some 120 grain TTSX in 6.5 grendel.
The barrel is 18" so I know I will lose some speed but I just have not found a powder that gives me the speed that I'd like to see in that cartridge.
With RL-15 I'm only getting 2300 fps
with 8208 I'm getting 2200 fps
I'd really like to get them around 2500-2600.
Gonna try some H335 next.
The barrel is 18" so I know I will lose some speed but I just have not found a powder that gives me the speed that I'd like to see in that cartridge.
With RL-15 I'm only getting 2300 fps
with 8208 I'm getting 2200 fps
I'd really like to get them around 2500-2600.
Gonna try some H335 next.
Posted on 11/6/19 at 3:30 pm to AlxTgr
I'm well aware of the high shoulder shot, and use it most all the time. It's definitely the deadliest possible shot when you want the deer to drop in it's tracks.
The reason for my change is that I'm now hunting a high line through a 3 yr old clearcut that is a bitch to go into. Last year I shot an 8 pt at about 230 yds with a corelokt that did not exit. Deer was hit mid chest and bullet was lodged in the off side just under the hide. Although he hit the ground, he got up and ran into the cut. Didn't go but about 50 yds, but left zero blood and was not recovered until the next morning.
Thence the reason for trying a more penetration friendly bullet.
The reason for my change is that I'm now hunting a high line through a 3 yr old clearcut that is a bitch to go into. Last year I shot an 8 pt at about 230 yds with a corelokt that did not exit. Deer was hit mid chest and bullet was lodged in the off side just under the hide. Although he hit the ground, he got up and ran into the cut. Didn't go but about 50 yds, but left zero blood and was not recovered until the next morning.
Thence the reason for trying a more penetration friendly bullet.
Posted on 11/6/19 at 3:57 pm to SCwTiger
Another vote for the Barnes. I've been shooing the following for several years now and never had to track an animal.
35 Whelen 180 gr. TTSX
30-06 168 gr. TTSX
30-30 150 gr. TSX
I load the 70 gr. TSX in my 223.
All are extremely accurate
35 Whelen 180 gr. TTSX
30-06 168 gr. TTSX
30-30 150 gr. TSX
I load the 70 gr. TSX in my 223.
All are extremely accurate
Posted on 11/6/19 at 4:30 pm to AlxTgr
I usually dodge this shot out of concern for meat, but on a trophy buck that I want to take zero chance on losing, its where I shoot.
IF, this is your intended shot, the Barnes TTSX or any solid copper bullet will be IDEAL, you'll penetrate both shoulders most likely.
IF, this is your intended shot, the Barnes TTSX or any solid copper bullet will be IDEAL, you'll penetrate both shoulders most likely.
Posted on 11/6/19 at 6:18 pm to SCwTiger
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This post was edited on 11/7/19 at 2:20 am
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