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re: Should some parishes in Louisiana adopt Antler restrictions?
Posted on 10/22/25 at 8:30 am to Loup
Posted on 10/22/25 at 8:30 am to Loup
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I don't want the restrictions to limit folks to only taking trophies
Texas's 13-inch minimum spread (which is essentially outside the ears at alert) doesnt limit you to just taking trophies. Its been great for the deer herd here.
The issue with antler restrictions is that they only work if people follow the law and enforcement occurs on those that dont.
Posted on 10/22/25 at 8:36 am to turnpiketiger
Many counties in TX have the 13" rule, my primary deer lease included. 2 buck limit. Allowed one buck that must have 13" spread and one buck that has at least 1 unbranched antler (e.g. spike or 3 point). I don't mind it at all. We don't have a shortage of deer. I can count one 1 finger the number of mature bucks I've passed on due to this rule.
Posted on 10/22/25 at 8:41 am to Loup
The minimum standard should be adopted similar to MS based on the area that is being hunted in LA.
For example, the delta has much more superior genetics than say SE MS. Where a 12" inside spread or a 15" main beam is the minimum standard in the delta and the minimum standard is 10" inside spread or 13" main beam in SE MS.
A similar regulation should be applied for someone deer hunting in tensas vs someone hunting in tangipahoa.
For example, the delta has much more superior genetics than say SE MS. Where a 12" inside spread or a 15" main beam is the minimum standard in the delta and the minimum standard is 10" inside spread or 13" main beam in SE MS.
A similar regulation should be applied for someone deer hunting in tensas vs someone hunting in tangipahoa.
Posted on 10/22/25 at 8:50 am to turnpiketiger
What about just limiting the buck harvests in your states instead of an antler size limit?
I hunt in Oklahoma and you're only allowed 1 buck with a rifle. You are allowed 6 deer total during the season (depending on your zone). In total, you're allowed 2 antlered bucks, but only 1 can be harvested with rifle.
There are no shortages of trophy bucks in Oklahoma. I am not sure on exact numbers, but I would assume you have 8-10 times as many hunters who only rifle hunt which in turn, just numbers wise, limits the amount of bucks in general to be harvested during an entire season.
Meat hunters can still get their meat by shooting 3-4 does. Trophy hunters still have their shot at getting that trophy with bow, muzzleloader, or rifle.
I hunt in Oklahoma and you're only allowed 1 buck with a rifle. You are allowed 6 deer total during the season (depending on your zone). In total, you're allowed 2 antlered bucks, but only 1 can be harvested with rifle.
There are no shortages of trophy bucks in Oklahoma. I am not sure on exact numbers, but I would assume you have 8-10 times as many hunters who only rifle hunt which in turn, just numbers wise, limits the amount of bucks in general to be harvested during an entire season.
Meat hunters can still get their meat by shooting 3-4 does. Trophy hunters still have their shot at getting that trophy with bow, muzzleloader, or rifle.
Posted on 10/22/25 at 9:05 am to Hawgeye
This is the way,
Louisiana needs to drop bucks down to 2 per year, with only one being able to be shot with a rifle.
Shorten the rifle season some and let more bucks survive. This will in turn create bigger bucks.
It’s pretty simple but there is this culture that is ingrained into people that they must shoot every buck they see.
Louisiana needs to drop bucks down to 2 per year, with only one being able to be shot with a rifle.
Shorten the rifle season some and let more bucks survive. This will in turn create bigger bucks.
It’s pretty simple but there is this culture that is ingrained into people that they must shoot every buck they see.
Posted on 10/22/25 at 9:16 am to WestMTiger
It has to go back to the days when people were so dirt poor they had to shoot the first thing they saw.
Posted on 10/22/25 at 9:23 am to WestMTiger
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Louisiana needs to drop bucks down to 2 per year, with only one being able to be shot with a rifle.
How many can be killed now? I have never deer hunted in Louisiana. I do go back home to Arkansas and it is quite crazy how a neighboring state to Arkansas, like Oklahoma, has much bigger mature deer.
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Shorten the rifle season some and let more bucks survive. This will in turn create bigger bucks
One thing I forgot. Oklahoma rifle opens the weekend before Thanksgiving and closes the weekend after Thanksgiving. So two full weeks and three full weekends. This year it runs November 22nd through December 7th.
I know back home in Arkansas, rifle will open the 8th of November this year, and runs until the end of December. That is entirely too long.
This post was edited on 10/22/25 at 9:24 am
Posted on 10/22/25 at 9:31 am to WestMTiger
No.
Again, who determined that trophy hunting is the "right" way to hunt? There are plenty of deer in Louisiana.
Again, who determined that trophy hunting is the "right" way to hunt? There are plenty of deer in Louisiana.
Posted on 10/22/25 at 9:35 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
quote:We’re surrounded by commie bone collectors, baw. Sad indeed.
No. You manage your place as you see fit and I'll manage mine as I see fit.
Posted on 10/22/25 at 9:45 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
quote:The industry.
Again, who determined that trophy hunting is the "right" way to hunt?
Posted on 10/22/25 at 10:03 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
quote:I don’t think it has to be about trophy hunting. But as a whole we should try and shoot more mature deer instead of just shooting everything that walks.
Again, who determined that trophy hunting is the "right" way to hunt?
I hunt in an area where you would never really see a “trophy buck” due to the genetics and nutrition. But I also don’t think that just because of that people should just go around rolling every 1.5 year old deer they see. There can be a balance that would result in a healthier overall deer population
Posted on 10/22/25 at 10:04 am to Hawgeye
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I know back home in Arkansas, rifle will open the 8th of November this year, and runs until the end of December. That is entirely too long.
You should look at Louisiana's season then.
Posted on 10/22/25 at 10:16 am to Bayou_Tiger_225
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But as a whole we should try and shoot more mature deer
Why? If the heard population is at healthy levels why does the age of the bucks killed matter?
Posted on 10/22/25 at 10:20 am to turnpiketiger
I know I will get a lot of downvotes but reducing the amount of deer tags/person would do a lot of good for the deer numbers.
4 max, 2 bucks only 1 w/rifle.
4 max, 2 bucks only 1 w/rifle.
Posted on 10/22/25 at 10:39 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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There are plenty of deer in Louisiana.
Actually there is not, a quick google shows that deer density per sq mile is very low.
Driving roads in Louisiana versus Mississippi, Alabama, Arkansas and Missouri shows we are well behind those states. And it matches what the data shows
Posted on 10/22/25 at 10:50 am to Ol boy
I agree however it depends on what part of the state you are in.
Drive any back road in west fel or madison at night and count how many deer you see vs driving a back road in assumption at night.
Drive any back road in west fel or madison at night and count how many deer you see vs driving a back road in assumption at night.
Posted on 10/22/25 at 10:50 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
quote:Total deer population is a false equivalence to healthy heard population.
If the heard population is at healthy levels why does the age of the bucks killed matter?
A healthy deer herd isn’t just defined by how many deer are on the landscape but by how those deer are distributed across age and sex classes. In a well-managed herd, the age distribution statistically should follow a bell curve with most deer fall within the 2½–4½-year range, with fewer fawns on the left and fewer old deer on the right. When that curve skews toward younger deer, the herd may look “healthy” by numbers, but it really isn’t.
And my point isn’t just on the bucks. It’s applies to the does as well. Healthy mature does are statistically much more likely to produce twins. That same mature doe also does a better job raising and maintaining those twins.
Posted on 10/22/25 at 10:55 am to Ol boy
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Driving roads in Louisiana versus Mississippi, Alabama, Arkansas and Missouri shows we are well behind those states. And it matches what the data shows
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Ol boy
This guy owns a body shop.
So we need more deer? More deer = more "trophies"? Or you just want to make driving more dangerous?
Posted on 10/22/25 at 10:56 am to Bayou_Tiger_225
quote:How much killing does it take to make this happen?
When that curve skews toward younger deer, the herd may look “healthy” by numbers, but it really isn’t.
Posted on 10/22/25 at 10:59 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
A lot of deer does not mean a healthy herd with proper age structures. We work with a TPWD biologist on our lease. Helicopter surveys every year. Good age structure in the herd is one of the main points he stresses. Let bucks get to 6 yrs old and it's amazing what you see.
The LA deer herd isn't that big compared to neighboring states and the age structure of the herd is all out of whack in many areas.
For a 5K acre pasture, they encourage us to shoot about 70 deer per year between both sexes.
The LA deer herd isn't that big compared to neighboring states and the age structure of the herd is all out of whack in many areas.
For a 5K acre pasture, they encourage us to shoot about 70 deer per year between both sexes.
This post was edited on 10/22/25 at 11:01 am
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