re: Shot a stud at last light....Pics in OP

I'll give my 2 cents on the dog argument:

When I was a young buck my dad had coon dogs, he loved blue ticks. A blue tick will run what ever it's trained to run and we had a good one.

I could put mine in the back of the truck and drive slowly through a creek bottom, we would see deer, possum, etc etc etc but when he threw his nose up and started winding I'd turn him loose and 100% of the time he was on a coon.

Damn dude, not sure why you was downplaying the size of the buck, great deer!

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How do you teach a dog to follow it then, baw? Do you run up to dead dear with a garbage bag waving it around trying to catch the pheromones, then close it real quick then stick a tennis ball in it to soak the pheromones into the ball to train with? Or do you cut the feet off? Well, that is how they train walkers to run deer.

I can’t believe you don’t think blood has a smell. I have never had a dog that didn’t follow the same trail that the deer did. I have worked the wind before and the dog got downwind and went to it. Here is the kicker though, the darn thing had blood all around it and he smelled the scent of blood in the air. Maybe you are confusing the “scent of blood” to these pheromones you keep trying to shove down our throats.

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You can train a dog to follow all the blood you want, all the hide you want, and all the feet you want, and it will still know the difference between a wounded deer and a healthy one. How do wild animals pick out the weakest? A blood trail? Or could it be something else?

Blood does have a scent but not every animal shot bleeds so how is a dog supposed to find a deer if it's not bleeding?

Shoot a deer in the leg. You and I both know that you will find very little if any blood. Yet a dog can trail them for 3 miles. It's not blood. It's the deer they are after.

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I always just assumed that there was blood that I couldn’t see but the dog could smell.

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OK so if you shot a deer broadside with only one hole, no exit and the blood clots up so it's not dripping anymore. The dog continues on the trail despite no blood, it's no longer trailing blood. How does he find the deer?

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Does he find the deer?

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Yes. The dog will find it.

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. The dog will find it.

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Scent is microscopic. The dogs are following microscopic bits of bloods and guts. You are an idiot.




@dylan fine fricking deer baw. Sure enough hoss.

Although I don't have a dog in this hunt (sorry, but I couldn't resist the temptation), it's an interesting discussion. My father's passion in hunting was fox (and later coyote) hunting w/ hounds. He usually used Walker hounds. Some hounds had a "cold" nose and were used to find a "cold" (old) track. They'd trail it until it was "hot" (fresher) at which point other hounds w/ a "hotter" nose would take over the tracking. Very frequently the men knew what type of fox it was (grey vs red) just by knowing which hound had started the track. A fox hound was a failure if he couldn't stay away from running deer. Some just couldn't fight the attraction. These "fox hound rejects" were highly valued in the deer hunting camps. In every camp you could find some deer hounds that were well known for tracking a buck, not a doe. Where I grew up in OR, one way to bear hunt was to drive the backroads in bear country until the hounds caught a bear scent at 2:08. Of course, all of this trailing was being done w/o any blood being involved. Some scientists contend we really don't know the limits of a dog's sense of smell. Having said that, I wouldn't be surprised to find out a dog can detect a healthy animal from an injured one, IF injury pheromones are released. There's a lot of science about alarm pheromones, especially in the insect kingdom. Would it be surprising if there were injury pheromones in deer? My search was brief, but I found one article indicating some animals can detect weakness in the scent of other animals. I'd be interested to read the available science on the topic of injury pheromones.

And Dylan, congrats on the buck. He's definitely a keeper.

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training is easy its in the dna its training the command many ways to do that.

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Exactly. A dog already knows how to track. It's natural. "Training" is just bringing it out more often and reading/learning/commanding the dog. My dog doesn't need to be trained. He just needs to find more experience.

I've seen dogs that didn't always follow the deer trail. They didn't bust through thick shite. They went around it and put their nose in the air to keep going. It's awesome to watch.

Great buck. And way to follow up and see it through.

baw