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Non-fly fishing, best bait and tackle for trout

Posted on 5/27/24 at 4:55 am
Posted by Che Boludo
Member since May 2009
21898 posts
Posted on 5/27/24 at 4:55 am
Took my son yesterday to a creek near us. It was full of browns and rainbows. Literally full of them, a 20" + brown was feet from us. He tried his best bear impression to Wade into the icy waters and catch one. But, of course, it was futile outside of the enjoyment I got from watching and admiring his relentless determination

I no longer have my fly rod, and he doesn't have the patience or attention to detail to learn to use one at the moment. Moreover, we move in a month, so buying another flyrod is a bit futile.

Plan to take him back there next weekend with spinning rods.

Any recommendations for best tackle and/or live bait for them?
Posted by Capt ST
High Plains
Member since Aug 2011
13670 posts
Posted on 5/27/24 at 5:08 am to
In line spinners, maybe a worm under a strike indicator.
Posted by Koolazzkat
Behind the Tupelo gum tree
Member since May 2021
3637 posts
Posted on 5/27/24 at 6:19 am to
Hot pink salmon egg or a couple kernels of canned sweet corn on a #12 hook on 4 lb monofilament or flaurocarbon with enough split shots weight to keep the bait in place. Hope you get that 20 incher!
Posted by Che Boludo
Member since May 2009
21898 posts
Posted on 5/27/24 at 6:31 am to
Well, I hope the kid does. The corn sounds like an interesting setup. Current is pretty good where they were, but could make it work.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 5/27/24 at 6:51 am to
Posted by 257WBY
Member since Feb 2014
7751 posts
Posted on 5/27/24 at 7:43 am to
Salmon eggs and be very cautious on approach.
Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
28657 posts
Posted on 5/27/24 at 8:19 am to
Fly with a casting bobber or trout magnet
Posted by dstone12
Texan
Member since Jan 2007
40384 posts
Posted on 5/27/24 at 8:30 am to
In the NC mountains, you can toss a large night crawler alive with a Carolina rig and let the current carry it down or leave it.

However I have a great story from WV where I was below tue Bluestone dam and saw five or six women wading with buckets.

They were letting helgramites grab their pinky finger and turned pull it out of the hold and sell them for a dollar apiece.

The black helgramite is your answer. But if you get real crazy, try to find the black and yellow helgramite.


Use them for soft plastic too.
Posted by Run up middle
DeRidder
Member since Oct 2012
1461 posts
Posted on 5/27/24 at 9:53 am to
Went on guided float trip in Arkansas one time and we used kernel corn whole weekend. Almost got tired of catching, we caught so many
Posted by El Segundo Guy
1-866-DHS-2-ICE
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 5/27/24 at 11:26 am to
Yep. Use that rooster tail in about 1/8 or 1/16. Ultralight spinning tackle and 4 lbs test. Caught as much as I want in Broken Bow, OK and the Blue River and also the Meramac and Bennett Springs in Missouri.
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
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Posted on 5/27/24 at 2:28 pm to
You need to make sure you are using good fishing line and likely need to start out with 4lb leader. Some guys even use 2lb but if you are seeing big fish that’s probably too small. A decent quality 4lb Fluoro leader and hide the hook real well with either salmon eggs or corn usually works well. Those spinners also work well that were posted above. Throw it all well upstream and past the fish and float it down to them as naturally as possible.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora
Member since Sep 2012
75362 posts
Posted on 5/27/24 at 2:52 pm to
What general area? I'm not asking for your honey hole, but at least a creek name? How big of a creek/river? What state? Many states have different rules and regulations that vary by creek, and even sections of creeks. You want to make sure what you are using is legal.

Fly fishing rules are pretty easy, it's the least restricted method of trout fishing. You really just need to know creel/size/season dates. When you start to venture out to other lures and live bait (corn is considered live bait in some places!) it can get complex.
This post was edited on 5/27/24 at 2:54 pm
Posted by Sixafan
Member since Aug 2023
947 posts
Posted on 5/27/24 at 4:11 pm to
Mepps Aglia spinner
Panther Martin spinners
Smaller better than bigger
Cast upstream and retrieve diagonally from like 11 o’clock to 5 oclock position.

Or a trout hook with a split shot about 13 inches a live hook with a salmon egg or live garden worm on hook. Berkeley power bait or small marshmallow works too if you are SE of say Ohio.
Posted by philtree506
Member since Jun 2017
29 posts
Posted on 5/27/24 at 7:00 pm to
I’ve had good luck with small pieces of shrimp. Steamed salad shrimp or microwaved pieces of bigger shrimp for both rainbow and browns
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
5564 posts
Posted on 5/27/24 at 8:14 pm to
quote:

Any recommendations for best tackle and/or live bait for them?


First, know your water. Most trout rivers do not allow live bait. Some do not allow any kind of fishing except for fly fishing.

As far as best setup that is not a fly rod, a light to medium light spinning reel is all you need. Spoons or spoons with a spinner are king. Big browns are very aggressive and feed mostly on other fish. This is why streamer flies work so well. I only catch big browns on streamers, big terrestrials and green drake flies. For you spoon, baby rainbow trout, baby brown trout, chub, dace and other similiar colors will work. I would work it much like I work a streamer fly. Cast up and across the river. When it get close to perpendicular with you, retrieve. Almost nothing swims upstream to escape predators, but many swim across current.

Edit: for real big browns, wait until almost dark, have a floating lure that looks like a mouse. Toss that lure upstream and onto the tall grass. Pull it into to water so that it splashes. Huge browns will take a field mouse that fell into water quickly. This is best done if you are wade fishing. I have caught some up to 30" doing mouse flies throughout the summer months.
This post was edited on 5/27/24 at 8:19 pm
Posted by BobABooey
Parts Unknown
Member since Oct 2004
16133 posts
Posted on 5/27/24 at 9:30 pm to
I’ll add Berkeley Powerbait Mice Tail on a size 8 hook under a float to the list of good suggestions so far.

If you can really see the fish and they are close to the bank, you can try a trick that worked for me as a kid to catch some big rainbow trout. I was fishing in the Yellowstone River with my Zebco bass combo that worked great in Louisiana but the trout I could see just a few feet from the bank weren’t interested in my lures. I got a small, black dry fly from my dad’s fly fishing gear and tied it on my line. I went a few feet upriver of the trout and danced the fly on the surface right above their heads. No casting, no reeling in…just kept the line out there. Eventually, they got so mad, they would slowly rise to the surface and snatch the fly. The trick is to have more patience than the fish.

Posted by Che Boludo
Member since May 2009
21898 posts
Posted on 5/28/24 at 6:30 am to
Yellow Breeches Creek in Boiling Springs, PA.

Need to figure out the rules here first. Like the post above cautioned, I also had a neighbor tell me that sections of a lot of creeks here are artificial bait only and the Game Commission defines artificial very specifically.

We're not fly fishing. Just spin rods.
This post was edited on 5/28/24 at 6:34 am
Posted by skidry
Member since Jul 2009
3579 posts
Posted on 5/28/24 at 6:52 am to
An old man told me he uses pink marsh mallows rigged so a small weight can sit on the bottom and the marshmallow can float up about 8-10” off the bottom.

Never tried it yet.
Posted by leblanc272
Lake Charles
Member since Aug 2019
218 posts
Posted on 5/28/24 at 6:58 am to
trout magnet
LINK
Posted by dstone12
Texan
Member since Jan 2007
40384 posts
Posted on 5/28/24 at 8:55 am to
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