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Posted on 8/22/19 at 3:11 pm to Chad504boy
Some people will keep a waterproof vhf, flashing light, and PLB/EPIRB hooked to, or in the pocket of, a pfd
Posted on 8/22/19 at 3:14 pm to Chad504boy
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Because the net effect is more cost to tax payers in these vast search and rescue efforts.
Not necessarily you, but people who push for more regulations generally only seem to be concerned about taxpayer money when they are trying to get more regulations created.
Otherwise you never hear a peep from them on saving tax money.
Skeptical weagle is skeptical.
Posted on 8/22/19 at 3:20 pm to Chad504boy
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For a $400 product, i'd probably have 2 of them on the boat
We normally run:
Auto deploy EPIRB (mounted to boat)
Personal PLB
Garmin InReach
And GPS linked VHF distress
If you can't find us, it's because we don't want to be found
Posted on 8/22/19 at 5:02 pm to Chad504boy
Well the thing is you have to draw the line somewhere. Why not have a PLB for every man on board and a auto deploy eprib? Why not have a sat phone? Why not an AIS transponder for your DSC radio? Why not have sirius weather? Why not put brass seacocks and double bilge pumps with a sealed power system? Why not fish from the bank?
All of these will increase your chances of surviving, but we all have our own acceptable level of risk.
Guy I bought my boat from had a compass. That's it. That's all he ever had, all he needed in 1999 and all he needed in 2019. Boat was only ever used offshore.
All of these will increase your chances of surviving, but we all have our own acceptable level of risk.
Guy I bought my boat from had a compass. That's it. That's all he ever had, all he needed in 1999 and all he needed in 2019. Boat was only ever used offshore.
Posted on 8/22/19 at 5:28 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
The BIL of one of the missing has posted that they are convinced they went in the water. That particular boat was not foam filled and they think it sunk. Terrible thing for all involved.
Posted on 8/22/19 at 5:47 pm to Janky
Definitely a sad deal. On the flip side going offshore without even a vhf radio is a risk they took and paid the price for. Hopefully this will encourage others to be better prepared.
Posted on 8/22/19 at 5:57 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Guy I bought my boat from had a compass. That's it. That's all he ever had, all he needed in 1999 and all he needed in 2019. Boat was only ever used offshore.
growing up we had a compass, a map, a pencil & paper and a stopwatch. run x minutes at x heading, then turn
then we got LORAN, which you needed to be a astrophysicist to understand. then...satellite navigation changed everything. there is no reason to accept any level of risk that does not include using those satellites up there
i've been the recipient of a taxpayer-funded open door helicopter ride once before, and i'm sure a shite glad they had a way to find me
Posted on 8/22/19 at 6:05 pm to Janky
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That particular boat was not foam filled and they think it sunk
the boat is/was a 24' robalo from what i've read. others may know different but it seems unlikely that it was not built foam-filled.
if the hull filled with water either from an impact breach or a failed fitting, the outboard alone might have been enough weight to drag it down or turtle it
it doesnt take much unfortunately
i just read bullrun's post on THT...heartbreaking
This post was edited on 8/22/19 at 6:21 pm
Posted on 8/22/19 at 6:25 pm to cgrand
Here is his post.
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Tough day today. The fact that the extremely extensive search efforts have not turned up a boat, capsized or otherwise; has us presuming Brian and Justin ended up in the water. We arrived here after information from the CG last night that this boat is not foam filled and will sink. Of course we don’t know for sure, or how. The likelihood of surviving 6 days in the water start to get pretty low even for these two guys. Today we we did the hardest thing I’ve ever had to do- tell my niece and nephew and my son and daughter that daddy/uncle Brian wasn’t coming home. I know anything is possible and they could still be found but we didn’t want to leave them with this ambiguity. As hard as this chapter has been, the next gets even harder. The world my family knew Friday morning doesn’t exist anymore. We will try to pick up the pieces and do the best we can.
This post was edited on 8/22/19 at 6:26 pm
Posted on 8/22/19 at 6:49 pm to Janky
Sad ending. With the early reports of it being a foam filled boat I was hoping that they were drifting somewhere with life jackets on
Posted on 8/22/19 at 6:53 pm to redneck
USCG says not foam filled but others said the brochure says it is. I would assume the USCG made contact with Robalo and confirmed. I know it was an older boat that he just inherited from his dad. It was a 2001 model.
There are apparently a couple of big tournaments out there this weekend. That will be a lot of eyes staring at the water. Hopefully at the very least the bodies can be recovered for the family.
There are apparently a couple of big tournaments out there this weekend. That will be a lot of eyes staring at the water. Hopefully at the very least the bodies can be recovered for the family.
This post was edited on 8/22/19 at 6:59 pm
Posted on 8/22/19 at 7:46 pm to Janky
I Cant imagine what it takes to break that news to those kids.
Posted on 8/23/19 at 7:12 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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For all of history men have gone to sea and for all of history men have been lost to the sea. Hopefully the family can find some peace in that they were lost doing what they loved.
Crazy to think with technology this still happens fairly regularly.
Makes you also appreciate the skill and balls of the sailors back in the 17-1800s that spend 3 months crossing the Atlantic with no idea of weather conditions and only the stars for navigation on a rickety wooden ship. Nobody today could do that
Posted on 8/23/19 at 7:20 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Cant imagine what it takes to break that news to those kids.
Gotta be the hardest thing to do in life
Posted on 8/23/19 at 7:39 am to El Jefe
It really doesn't look good for those two guys with nothing being found in all this time. If the boat somehow sank and they are in the water, it is damn near impossible for planes to spot them in open water like that.
Even with the water being warm this time of year, hypothermia can set in once the bodies temperature dips below 95 degrees.
One can only hope for a miracle now for them to be found safe. Shame too being young men with families waiting for them.
Even with the water being warm this time of year, hypothermia can set in once the bodies temperature dips below 95 degrees.
One can only hope for a miracle now for them to be found safe. Shame too being young men with families waiting for them.
Posted on 8/23/19 at 1:51 pm to gumbo2176
I was visiting my parents this week who live in Cape Canaveral and on Wednesday evening we headed over to the Port to get a bite to eat and saw that their truck and trailer are still sitting at the boat ramp. Really sobering to see.
Posted on 8/23/19 at 2:07 pm to Clint Torres
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I was visiting my parents this week who live in Cape Canaveral and on Wednesday evening we headed over to the Port to get a bite to eat and saw that their truck and trailer are still sitting at the boat ramp. Really sobering to see.
Yep. Lost a friend of mine about 20 years ago in a boating mishap. He was out alone in his boat fishing inland waters and I had heard some fishermen spotted his boat going in circles with nobody in it.
Took 3 days of searching before they found his body.
Posted on 8/23/19 at 8:41 pm to gumbo2176
My dad sent this pic this evening. Boat and trailer have become a memorial. Flowers, balloons, ribbons. Damn.
Posted on 8/23/19 at 9:06 pm to Clint Torres
Sad situation but these guys made a lot of bad mistakes and unfortunately it cost them their lives. The thread on tht has devolved into some delusional posters and a couple blaming the coast guard calling off the search too early. It seems like with only the floating tackle bag recovered this boat sunk and these guys went in the water. Hopefully more people will buy Epirbs and plbs as a result of this.
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