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Posted on 10/27/21 at 6:45 am
Posted by Junky
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2005
8382 posts
Posted on 10/27/21 at 6:45 am
Let's talk med kits. I'm looking at building three kits, one for each of our vehicles and one for hunting.

I'm thinking 4 these tourniquets for each kit eventually. A glass breaker for each of the vehicles. I already have tire repair kits and thinking more medical. Our hunting is not backcountry. 20-30 minutes away from the nearest ER from any stand.

Besides the tourniquets, is there any good gauze, or anything else? Is there a shelf life I should be aware of?
Posted by reds on reds on reds
Birmingham
Member since Sep 2013
4205 posts
Posted on 10/27/21 at 6:47 am to
Quikclot for sure
Posted by DownSouthJukin
Coaching Changes Board
Member since Jan 2014
27283 posts
Posted on 10/27/21 at 7:08 am to
Look at Solatac. His kits are about exactly what you’re looking for.

And he's a Louisiana baw making these things in Louisiana.
This post was edited on 10/27/21 at 11:17 am
Posted by TigernLargo
Largo, Fl
Member since Jan 2008
59 posts
Posted on 10/27/21 at 7:09 am to
+1 on Quickclot

I started out buying individual items, but then bought one of these for each car - MedKit

then built around that with small bottles of tylenol, ibuprofen, etc and added bandages, gauze, gloves, isopropyl wipes

packed all into the red first aid bags from CVS (buy empty ones.. the loaded really don't have many useful items for the field)
This post was edited on 10/27/21 at 7:16 am
Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
134865 posts
Posted on 10/27/21 at 7:15 am to
Impregnated gauze
Israeli bandages
Chest seals
Ace wrap
Gauze pads
Roll splint
Emergency blanket
Gloves
Trauma shears
Various types of tapes/wraps
Posted by kengel2
Team Gun
Member since Mar 2004
30807 posts
Posted on 10/27/21 at 7:17 am to
Med kits are good, although if you dont know how to use them they wont be much help.

Id buy an extra to figure out how to use.

Teach your kids how to apply the tourniquet because it might be you that needs it.
Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
23988 posts
Posted on 10/27/21 at 8:13 am to
quote:

Besides the tourniquets,


People put WAY too much time and energy into thinking things that are a very low order of probability of happening vs things that are likely to happen. While a gunshot would isn't beyond the realm of possibility, what's most likely to happen at your hunting camp? Insect stings and bites, cuts and abrasions, sunburn, sprains and bruises.

Build a kit around those things. You don't need to spend $50 on a couple of tourniquets if you have a belt or $2.00 bandana and a ink pen.

In addition to the bug out bags we keep in each of our cars, we have one of these in each of them. If your 30 mins from civilization, this should get you through 99% of the situations you'll run up against.

Here's an Amazon link, but we got it much cheaper at Sams Club
This post was edited on 10/27/21 at 8:18 am
Posted by 257WBY
Member since Feb 2014
5603 posts
Posted on 10/27/21 at 8:18 am to
I’ve got several Adventure Medical Kits. They come in various sizes for different uses.
Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
22157 posts
Posted on 10/27/21 at 8:45 am to
quote:

While a gunshot would isn't beyond the realm of possibility, what's most likely to happen at your hunting camp? Insect stings and bites, cuts and abrasions, sunburn, sprains and bruises.


If I get stung by a wasp and don't have a med kit with me....no big deal. If I get shot and don't have a med kit with me....much bigger deal.

I understand your point. I keep a med kit in my car to deal with minor injuries, scrapes, etc. My kit that I take with me hunting has life saving equipment in case shite goes really bad.
Posted by Junky
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2005
8382 posts
Posted on 10/27/21 at 8:56 am to
quote:

If I get stung by a wasp and don't have a med kit with me....no big deal. If I get shot and don't have a med kit with me....much bigger deal.


I should have expressed my question better. We have things for minor injuries, stings, cuts. Covered.

I’m thinking more of major trauma and injuries. I’m talking accidental discharges, chainsaw accidents, vehicle accidents, … along those lines.

Sure, it probably will never happen. Yes, I’ve been introduced to some tourniquet usage and now want to expand my response capabilities.

Great responses so far.
This post was edited on 10/27/21 at 8:57 am
Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
23988 posts
Posted on 10/27/21 at 9:03 am to
quote:

I should have expressed my question better. We have things for minor injuries, stings, cuts. Covered.



Thanks for clarifying.
This post was edited on 10/27/21 at 9:04 am
Posted by Bamadiver
Member since Jun 2014
3226 posts
Posted on 10/27/21 at 10:05 am to
If you're looking at NAR tourniquets you may as well hop over to NARs website and look at their kit compositions. They have some great kits you can look at for ideas on what to put together for your own or just grab one of theirs.

My kit:
israeli bandage
gloves (2 pair)
shears
2 x tourniquets
survival blanket
rolled gauze
gauze pads
1 lg, 1 sm burn dressing
sealed doses of ibuprofin/tylennol
quickclot
tape
moleskin
a few different sizes of tegaderm(can do more than just dress wounds with it)

Everything not water resistent out of the box I sealed using my vacuum sealer and precut for easy access.
Posted by Huntinguy
Member since Mar 2011
1752 posts
Posted on 10/27/21 at 10:28 am to
I'm with you on being prepared for whats most likely to happen.

But you lose me when you say your preparation for a serious incident, is to improvise.

Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
23988 posts
Posted on 10/27/21 at 10:48 am to
quote:

But you lose me when you say your preparation for a serious incident, is to improvise.


That really wasn't what I was trying to say, but re-reading it, I can see where it could be interpreted that way.

What I was getting at is an allocation of resources question. Where do you get the best bang for your buck with regards to life saving and first aid supplies/resources? Since the OP has since stated that they have the small things covered, we can jump on to talking about more sever/catastrophic injuries.

In my mind, and all the training I've ever received says a tourniquet is a life for limb situations. In the limited first aid training/certification I've gotten (yearly 8 hour course through work), tourniquets should only be applied by trained medical professionals. Why? Because they are trained and experienced in assessing what is a life threatening wound (Not to say that others couldn't make that assessment in any particular situation). I guess it just bugs me that so many people put purpose built ones in their Med kits (never to be used) when you can improvise one out of any number of things that could have a dual or multiple use. It's not been mentioned, but size and weight with a med/first aid kit is an issue. If it's too big/heavy people won't take it with them in the woods. If you don't take it with you, it won't do you any good when the $HTF.

In reality, and for my $$ I think I would rather spend money on haemostatic dressings rather than a fancy tourniquet. Why? Because tourniquets can only be used on an arterial bleed to the limbs. Haemostatic dressings can be applied everywhere including wounds to the head and torso.

But this is just my opinion, and yours (and everyone else's) is good too. I appreciate other perspectives....
Posted by AyyyBaw
Member since Jan 2020
1059 posts
Posted on 10/27/21 at 11:05 am to
Here are my two cents that aren't worth much, but figured I'd try to contribute. A legit tourniquet (not a knock-off brand from Amazon) should be in every med kit that is around guns. I'm not a trauma doctor, but I do teach Stop the Bleed classes several times a year. You don't want to rely on a belt or tampon to stop an arterial bleed to an extremity. I keep a kit in my range bag and in my truck at all times. I'll bring my truck kit in my hunting bag while hunting. Main components for penetrating injuries are tourniquet, QuikClot dressings, chest seals and various pressure wraps and gauze. It also has ancillaries like a snake bite kit, medications, splint, survival blanket, firestarter, etc.
Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
23988 posts
Posted on 10/27/21 at 11:08 am to
quote:

Here are my two cents that aren't worth much, but figured I'd try to contribute. A legit tourniquet (not a knock-off brand from Amazon) should be in every med kit that is around guns. I'm not a trauma doctor, but I do teach Stop the Bleed classes several times a year. You don't want to rely on a belt or tampon to stop an arterial bleed to an extremity. I keep a kit in my range bag and in my truck at all times. I'll bring my truck kit in my hunting bag while hunting. Main components for penetrating injuries are tourniquet, QuikClot dressings, chest seals and various pressure wraps and gauze. It also has ancillaries like a snake bite kit, medications, splint, survival blanket, firestarter, etc.



Very good points and well taken. Already reconsidering my choices...
This post was edited on 10/27/21 at 11:09 am
Posted by Huntinguy
Member since Mar 2011
1752 posts
Posted on 10/27/21 at 11:19 am to
Well thought out response and I agree with you on the priority of resource allocation.

TQs are suggested for more use that they were at one time.

Its my opinion, but I feel like there should be one in every FAK/Trauma kit and probably a couple per vehicle.
Posted by 257WBY
Member since Feb 2014
5603 posts
Posted on 10/27/21 at 11:32 am to
Consider joining an air ambulance service.
Posted by TexasHand
Mississippi
Member since Sep 2013
975 posts
Posted on 10/27/21 at 12:14 pm to
My truck kit -
basic med kit / common meds (advil, benadryl and so on) ace bandage, mole skin, bandaids, anti bacterial cream, any prescription myself or my wife and kids may need, trauma shears, knife, eye wash and so on….. this kit gets used regularly.

trauma kit x2 / tourniquet, chest seal, israeli bandage, quit clot gauze, gloves, tampons, shears, knife, artificial airway…. hopefully this kit never gets used.

Basic survival (be able to) / start a fire, clean water and contain water, keep yourself warm, keep yourself out of the elements, solar charge your devices, common batteries, duct tape, some kind of camp knife, leather man, flashlight/head lamp, glow sticks, compass, Pens, Note pads….. this one gets dipped into regularly also.

Xtras /
jiggler keys
small pry-bar
road flare
small knife sharpener

All of this sounds like a lot but i fit it all in one backpack and it goes with my and my family everywhere.




Posted by X123F45
Member since Apr 2015
27429 posts
Posted on 10/27/21 at 12:16 pm to
Having a wife as a nurse helps
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