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Man charged for using drone for deer recovery.

Posted on 2/27/24 at 9:10 pm
Posted by highcotton2
Alabama
Member since Feb 2010
9391 posts
Posted on 2/27/24 at 9:10 pm
Well this is a screwed up story. Undercover game wardens asked a guy to help them recover a wounded deer and then charged him with multiple crimes related to using a drone in deer recovery.

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The two game wardens were involved in the sting operation against Wingenroth, which took place at the Welsh Mountain Nature Preserve in Lancaster County on Dec. 6. Wingenroth responded to the warden’s request for help recovering a deer and flew the area with his drone; when he shined one of the drone’s lights on a live whitetail, the second officer arrived to seize Wingenroth’s drone and issue the four citations against him.


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Posted by Whisky Dent
Louisiana
Member since Jan 2022
18 posts
Posted on 2/27/24 at 9:21 pm to
Yeah it’s way more ethical to let a wounded deer get chewed up by coyotes than it is to shine a light on a live one

I hope he wins in court.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
56205 posts
Posted on 2/27/24 at 9:22 pm to
Can someone tell me why we can’t recover deer however we can? Seems a godsend.
Posted by Turnblad85
Member since Sep 2022
1125 posts
Posted on 2/27/24 at 9:59 pm to
great way for greenjeans to earn the respect of sportsmen!
Posted by Wraytex
San Antonio - Gonzales
Member since Jun 2020
1982 posts
Posted on 2/27/24 at 10:13 pm to
Th
quote:

great way for greenjeans to earn the respect of sportsmen!


Not related but related.... One time Paul Harvey was telling a story about how midwestern farmers were approached by the state (CRS on which one) biologists about a rare bird and to report any sightings to a hotline. Well they did, and then the state biologists came in and exercised some rule and created 50 acre zones around the spot after they verified the rare birds were indeed there. No farming could occur within these zones. Well the next year the state biologists were perplexed as to why after a good first year there were no rare bird sightings the following year. No one went on record but the message that the farmers were instead shooting the birds made its way back to the state biologists. Good-day....
Posted by ChatRabbit77
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2013
5860 posts
Posted on 2/27/24 at 10:15 pm to
Don't they have better shite to do? What a waste of resources and tax dollars. I'm sure they are patting themselves on their backs too.
Posted by lsufan1971
Zachary
Member since Nov 2003
18129 posts
Posted on 2/27/24 at 11:31 pm to
Similar happed in CA with the spotted owl. They asked Forrester's to report nest. Once they did they shut down logging. Loggers got the picture and stopped reporting.
Posted by TC Kidd
Member since Nov 2023
776 posts
Posted on 2/28/24 at 1:21 am to
I’m not a lawyer and I might be totally off base here, but could this be entrapment?
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
43700 posts
Posted on 2/28/24 at 1:32 am to
Definitely entrapment he needs to get good lawyer bear their arse then sue them. You can’t do shite like this
Posted by Sidicous
Middle of Nowhere
Member since Aug 2015
17127 posts
Posted on 2/28/24 at 6:30 am to
quote:

No one went on record but the message that the farmers were instead shooting the birds made its way back to the state biologists


Wonder about some of the “bear found dead” stuff isn’t simply the same thing going on here between those living with the bears vs the state.

Me? All I ever saw was a trash bag mr. agency person.
Posted by CHGAR
Haile, LA
Member since Aug 2022
563 posts
Posted on 2/28/24 at 7:18 am to
quote:

Don't they have better shite to do? What a waste of resources and tax dollars. I'm sure they are patting themselves on their backs too.



Just watching game warden shows lets you know they don't. These dudes spend thousands just to write a $50 ticket.
Posted by turkish
Member since Aug 2016
1736 posts
Posted on 2/28/24 at 10:33 am to
Im against it until there’s a better way to prevent their use for actually hunting live game animals.
This post was edited on 2/28/24 at 10:37 am
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
90509 posts
Posted on 2/28/24 at 10:37 am to
quote:

One time Paul Harvey was telling a story about how midwestern farmers were approached by the state (CRS on which one) biologists about a rare bird and to report any sightings to a hotline. Well they did, and then the state biologists came in and exercised some rule and created 50 acre zones around the spot after they verified the rare birds were indeed there. No farming could occur within these zones. Well the next year the state biologists were perplexed as to why after a good first year there were no rare bird sightings the following year. No one went on record but the message that the farmers were instead shooting the birds made its way back to the state biologists. Good-day....



Made the mistake of reporting a dead bald eagle on the farm once that had obviously flown into a power line overnight. My God the feds did a full autopsy and found one lead pellet in the bird and tried to say we shot it. They went through our paperwork for the last several years trying to find one instance where we purchased lead instead of steel shot for our depredation permit for cormorants. Couldn’t find one, and forensics showed the pellet had been in the bird a long time. They determined it died from blunt trauma from….wait for it….flying into a power line.


Found another one years later same scenario. Dug a deep hole with the backhoe
Posted by deltaland
Member since Mar 2011
90509 posts
Posted on 2/28/24 at 10:40 am to
I don’t understand why it’s illegal to use a drone to find a wounded/killed deer.

I feel awful when i shoot one and lose it. Seems better to use all resources to find it so the deer doesn’t suffer or get shredded by coyotes, or die and the carcass goes to waste.
Posted by turkish
Member since Aug 2016
1736 posts
Posted on 2/28/24 at 10:46 am to
I’m gonna be looking for a lot of wounded turkeys this spring.
Posted by PT24-7
Member since Jul 2013
4368 posts
Posted on 2/28/24 at 11:03 am to
When you realize the government is about power and job security and not about doing what’s right everything they do starts to make perfect sense.
Posted by Wraytex
San Antonio - Gonzales
Member since Jun 2020
1982 posts
Posted on 2/28/24 at 2:05 pm to
Back in 16 I shot a 140 8 pointer on at our place and a ffew weeks later two GW's came by checking hunting camps. In shooting the bull I told them about the 8 pointer and showed them my license and the photo of the buck, which I used my 6.8. I could tell he was zooming in all the way and I asked him if he was trying to stretch that 5 round mag into a 10 rounder.
Posted by One More Shot
Member since Nov 2021
277 posts
Posted on 2/28/24 at 2:43 pm to
Not entrapment if you knowingly participated in breaking the law. PERIOD
Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
24952 posts
Posted on 2/28/24 at 4:07 pm to
quote:

Not entrapment if you knowingly participated in breaking the law


Not a lawyer, but it they call you to specifically help them, how is it not?

He would not have been there if they had not called him. Why did they pick him?
Posted by Basinhunterfisher
Member since Feb 2018
251 posts
Posted on 2/28/24 at 4:21 pm to
Some of the fish and game laws in this country are dumb as chit, liberals must be involved with a lot of them, just like not being able to pickup a deer you hit with your truck, i swear its all about the money
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