re: Looking for dog suggestions

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The boykins and pudels are very intriguing. What’s the energy level/exercise requirements of a Boykin?

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It takes most boykins 2-3 years to move from full on puppy phase to chill at home dog.

Jim check out the article in du this month it’s pretty accurate. All 3 of our boykins were safe to be left alone in house at the same time as any other breed.


I can show you ours at any time

Boykin or GSP if you don't want a lab...and labs are messy in the house...they shed like crazy. GSPs in my opinion may be a little to fired up in a house unless they get a lot of exercise....they are by far the most laid back of the pointers, in my opinion, but they are, at the end of the day, a pointer, built to run for days and range for miles. They hunt closer than most pointers but they are still pointers.

Boykin seems to fit the bill but don't overlook a poodle...seriously...they are supposed to be super intelligent and easy to train. Probably difficult to find one with a lot of bird sense as it has probably been bred out of them but they were water dogs at one time and there are still some being used as retrievers. They don't shed much and are as lazy as a lab in the house and have an engine like a pointer when outside and playing. And they don't have to have the dog show hair cut....of course they can have it but it'd take a man, strong in his sense of masculinity, to show up in a blind with a manicured poodle....the dog would be fine but the owner may be traumatized for life....they do make excellent pets and can make excellent hunting dogs.

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My boykin sheds as much as my lab did, just fyi.

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Boykins shed. I wouldn't say a ton, but they do. I was roomies with a guy with a yellow lab once and the type of hair they shed is different. Labs shed spikey gaurd hairs, boykins shed soft undercoat hair.

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can be left alone for 8-9 hours at a time,

You don’t need a dog

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C'mon man, like everyone who has a dog doesn't work 8-9 hours a day. GTFO.

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Google Deutsch-Drahthaar. My buddy has one and it’s pretty cool, never heard of the breed before but it did well retrieving ducks the one time I hunted
With it.

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My dad has 3 Drathaars. He has two females from the same litter and a 3rd female from one of those that he bred.

They are basically the Swiss army knife breed he has been looking for. They'll do pretty much anything you ask of them.

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1. Require registration and are expensive.
2. SUPER high energy. If you do not have room or time to run them, don't get one. My dad's dogs have completely torn his yard to shite from all the laps they run out there.
3. May require field trials. I'm not sure if this is mandatory but my dad takes them to competitions about once or twice a year.

Here are some pictures from the litter he got from Ada:

Look into the Braque Francais. It's a french pointer. I've been very interested in the breed for years and just put a deposit down on a pup this past weekend, litter due this summer. They look very similar to a GSP, but a bit smaller, and head is a little different shape. They have a good reputation for being calm indoors, but still having plenty of drive in the field. Much less high strung than a GSP. One thing to keep in mind is they need to be trained with a very soft approach, they don't respond to heavier handed styles. They're still a relatively rare breed in the US. They go for ~$1500.

Shorthair/wirehair among other differences

I mistyped, I meant between the drahthar and GSP/GWP

Got ya