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re: LDWF needs move deer and duck hunting season dates 30 days later.
Posted on 1/19/24 at 1:46 pm to White Bear
Posted on 1/19/24 at 1:46 pm to White Bear
They touch on Trent Lott and the push to later seasons.
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Posted on 1/19/24 at 1:53 pm to GREENHEAD22
quote:Yeah i heard it, and do not specifically remember the fight or when it happened. But in the following few winters we wore the ducks out. Wash Post - Trent Lott Extending Duck Season 1998
They touch on Trent Lott and the push to later seasons.
I have read where the later season potentially harms pair bonding. Which is why i always try and shoot even numbers.
This post was edited on 1/19/24 at 2:03 pm
Posted on 1/19/24 at 2:40 pm to TIGRLEE
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Suppose I wanted to hunt inthe eve???
Do you really think I was inferring that the am temps were 80?
So maybe 5 days hit 80? don't go hunting those days or move North
Posted on 1/19/24 at 3:36 pm to Midtiger farm
LOL
Just admit you are wrong.
Nobody like hunting in the heat.. z besides you obviously
Just admit you are wrong.
Nobody like hunting in the heat.. z besides you obviously
Posted on 1/19/24 at 3:47 pm to TIGRLEE
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Just admit you are wrong.
Nobody like hunting in the heat.. z besides you obviously
How am I wrong? it's not Hot in Oct. Me and others have provided the facts that prove this to you and you haven't provided shite except whining like a bitch
Posted on 1/19/24 at 4:15 pm to Midtiger farm
The facts you provided were temps
Which at first you made it out like I was referring to ams being 80 degrees …..I mean you’re stupid but you’re not that stupid.
You know damn good well that’s not what I meant.
You’re other buddy suggestion was don’t hunt eve or move north
Which is exactly what I’d say too if I could t admit yeah… that’s little too warm for deer hunting.
If anyone is being a bitch it’s you.
You’re not convincing anyone that 65-85 degree temps are ideal deer hiring weather
Which at first you made it out like I was referring to ams being 80 degrees …..I mean you’re stupid but you’re not that stupid.
You know damn good well that’s not what I meant.
You’re other buddy suggestion was don’t hunt eve or move north
Which is exactly what I’d say too if I could t admit yeah… that’s little too warm for deer hunting.
If anyone is being a bitch it’s you.
You’re not convincing anyone that 65-85 degree temps are ideal deer hiring weather
Posted on 1/19/24 at 4:27 pm to TIGRLEE
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You’re not convincing anyone that 65-85 degree temps are ideal deer hiring weather
Thats not the avg weather in Oct
This is
Daily low temperatures decrease by 10°F, from 64°F to 54°F, rarely falling below 41°F or exceeding 73°F.
Posted on 1/19/24 at 4:48 pm to Midtiger farm
I hunted one evening the first week of October this year and my phone said 93 deg. when I got on the stand at 4:30
Posted on 1/19/24 at 4:53 pm to Jack Daniel
There are such things called outliers
Just like 80 degree days in dec
Just like 80 degree days in dec
Posted on 1/19/24 at 5:00 pm to choupiquesushi
I don’t have a dog in this hunt but are yall actually saying it’s not hot early October in the south?
Posted on 1/19/24 at 5:44 pm to Jack Daniel
It’s hot but too hot to hunt or as hot as some of these are claiming. Let’s face it most October hunters are only hunting the first 3-4 hours and last 2-3
This post was edited on 1/19/24 at 6:05 pm
Posted on 1/19/24 at 8:26 pm to KemoSabe65
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Once again, LDWF has no control over DUCKS!
You need to contact USFW and make them aware of your concerns about season start and end dates
This is not correct, they give the overall dates that they can fall in and the states can use their days in the range given. Louisiana chooses when to spend their 60 days.
LINK
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The earliest (September 1) and latest (March 10) dates allowed for hunting are set by the Migratory Bird Conventions referenced at the beginning of this story. Framework dates, which are the annual dates selected by the Service for hunting, vary for different groups of migratory game birds. Annual framework dates for most regular waterfowl seasons are from the end of September to the end of January for ducks, and mid-February for geese.
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Most states select their hunting season to maximize their duck harvest within these frameworks. States always have the right to be more restrictive than the established federal frameworks.
Season lengths, bag limits, and to a lesser extent framework dates are selected and changed based on changes in bird abundance and habitat conditions.
This post was edited on 1/19/24 at 8:34 pm
Posted on 1/19/24 at 9:28 pm to Scrowe
So did you just ignore the statement that says regular duck season must close by January 31st?
Because that's the only one relevant to the OP's point about moving the duck season back 30 days.
Because that's the only one relevant to the OP's point about moving the duck season back 30 days.
Posted on 1/19/24 at 9:43 pm to Cowboyfan89
Just responded to say it is not all in the Fed's hands.
Did you ignore to whom and to what I was responding?
Anyhow in response to the data you provided about first freeze, I don't believe it's so much the first freeze that is so impactful as the timing and duration of sustained freezes north of us. Freezing low temps for a night or 2 aren't as impactful as North of the Louisiana/Arkansas border staying below freezing for a week like what happened last week and happened last year that helped boost the season in our area.
Did you ignore to whom and to what I was responding?
Anyhow in response to the data you provided about first freeze, I don't believe it's so much the first freeze that is so impactful as the timing and duration of sustained freezes north of us. Freezing low temps for a night or 2 aren't as impactful as North of the Louisiana/Arkansas border staying below freezing for a week like what happened last week and happened last year that helped boost the season in our area.
This post was edited on 1/19/24 at 9:48 pm
Posted on 1/20/24 at 8:25 am to Scrowe
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Just responded to say it is not all in the Fed's hands.
But from the standpoint of what is being discussed, it is...
Only USFWS can decide to allow regular duck to run later. LDWF had absolutely no say in that. They only get to set seasons within the parameters set by the feds.
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Anyhow in response to the data you provided about first freeze, I don't believe it's so much the first freeze that is so impactful as the timing and duration of sustained freezes north of us.
Nobody said they were. But the guy I responded to said the first freeze used to occur in October in the Delta.
The weather data shows that this is patently false.
I've said exactly what you just did in several duck hunting threads here in the last few years. People bitch about our weather conditions, but you can kill ducks in 70 degree weather in LA if there's alot of snow and ice and little food and water available up north.
Posted on 1/20/24 at 10:37 am to Cowboyfan89
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So did you just ignore the statement that says regular duck season must close by January 31st? Because that's the only one relevant to the OP's point about moving the duck season back 30 days.
This is a decent point, but then why did LDWF end the coastal zone on Jan 21? A longer split and 10 days in late Jan would at least maximize what they are allowed to do.
Posted on 1/20/24 at 12:13 pm to SlackMaster
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This is a decent point, but then why did LDWF end the coastal zone on Jan 21? A longer split and 10 days in late Jan would at least maximize what they are allowed to do.
Because based on public input in the past, that's how people want the coastal zone set.
LDWF doesn't just make up those splits--that's based on public input. People wanted more days early, as well as 3 splits.
That's why we went back to 2 zones as well.
Posted on 1/20/24 at 3:18 pm to Cowboyfan89
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Because based on public input in the past, that's how people want the coastal zone set.
“Public input” meaning a few influential individuals who hunt in the marsh
Posted on 1/20/24 at 3:28 pm to Midtiger farm
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“Public input” meaning a few influential individuals who hunt in the marsh
30% of respondents to the 2020 waterfowl hunter survey were in favor of the 2 zone format. The difference was in how people wanted it split--35% wanted it north/south, and 35% wanted it east/west at the Atchafalaya.
Based on harvest data, LDWF saw no logic in splitting it at the Atchafalaya. Now why they didn't go with the north/south line following 14/90, who knows?
Harvest data also showed that average daily bag dropped as the season progressed. There's literally nothing to support that having the season open later would result in better hunting. To the contrary--it gets worse the later we get.
People just can't seem to understand that we see alot more ducks in fields come February because the frickers know they aren't getting shot at...
This post was edited on 1/20/24 at 3:32 pm
Posted on 1/20/24 at 3:44 pm to boudinman
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One example is moving archery deer to Nov 1 - Feb 28 etc.
Ducks are serious with opposite sex by late February. No way the season is shifted to accommodate you.
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