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re: I'm in the market for my 1st Rifle for Deer Hunting
Posted on 12/13/11 at 11:21 am to Mahootney
Posted on 12/13/11 at 11:21 am to Mahootney
If you're set on the 270 vs 270wsm.
I'll advise you to take the 270.
If you're wanting a recommendation on a brand:
Remington
Winchester
Browning
You can pick from these based upon what you like the best.
I'll advise you to take the 270.
If you're wanting a recommendation on a brand:
Remington
Winchester
Browning
You can pick from these based upon what you like the best.
Posted on 12/13/11 at 11:22 am to TexasTiger
quote:
Your budget is really needed here....great rifles have been thrown out...but some have a nice little price tag attached.
I would be willing to spend up to $1000 on the gun.
Posted on 12/13/11 at 11:25 am to joeygalloway9
You can get a Montana Production rifle for just under that.
Posted on 12/13/11 at 11:34 am to joeygalloway9
Posted on 12/13/11 at 11:35 am to Nodust
I checked one of them out at Simmons the other day and that would be a really cool snake gun.
Posted on 12/13/11 at 11:38 am to TIGA2010
These threads always make me laugh. It's amazing what people with little experience will present to new hunters as infallible truth.
To deny that the 243 has earned a spot in the deer woods is just ridiculous. To claim that it out performs other calibers is as ridiculous.
Magnum advocates, fine, we get it. Now stop suggesting that every Joe blow that puts on orange should have one. The fact is that most magnums out aren't capable of performing to the standards advertised. They are either cheap rifles, topped with cheap glass, or cheap rings and bases. The magnum argument, to me, is best evidenced by a convo I had at the camp about 6 years ago. My bro had just purchased a 300 wsm and was bragging about how badass it was. After claiming that I didn't see how it was that much more then a 30-06, he looked at me and said, "dude, it's twice the rifle a 30-06 is. It's just a matter of time before they make a 30-06 wsm!". Point being, most people that shoot magnums do so because of the word "magnum".
Everytime I see a novice hunter with a magnum rifle, he's having problems with his accuracy. I don't care if your 7 mag shoots one hole at 100yds. I've been doing this for a looong time and helped a bunch of people get their shite right. Really, I'm not bashing any of you guys that have been hunting for years and shoot mags or even you boys that just bought your first rifle and love the magnum. Just saying that in my experience magnums are a horrible idea for new hunters and are ridiculous over kill.
To deny that the 243 has earned a spot in the deer woods is just ridiculous. To claim that it out performs other calibers is as ridiculous.
Magnum advocates, fine, we get it. Now stop suggesting that every Joe blow that puts on orange should have one. The fact is that most magnums out aren't capable of performing to the standards advertised. They are either cheap rifles, topped with cheap glass, or cheap rings and bases. The magnum argument, to me, is best evidenced by a convo I had at the camp about 6 years ago. My bro had just purchased a 300 wsm and was bragging about how badass it was. After claiming that I didn't see how it was that much more then a 30-06, he looked at me and said, "dude, it's twice the rifle a 30-06 is. It's just a matter of time before they make a 30-06 wsm!". Point being, most people that shoot magnums do so because of the word "magnum".
Everytime I see a novice hunter with a magnum rifle, he's having problems with his accuracy. I don't care if your 7 mag shoots one hole at 100yds. I've been doing this for a looong time and helped a bunch of people get their shite right. Really, I'm not bashing any of you guys that have been hunting for years and shoot mags or even you boys that just bought your first rifle and love the magnum. Just saying that in my experience magnums are a horrible idea for new hunters and are ridiculous over kill.
Posted on 12/13/11 at 11:52 am to INFIDEL
I do not own a 7mag or 300wsm and probably never will unless I get a chance to go big-game hunting is Alaska one day. There is absolutely no need to have that large a caliber while hunting in La/Ms/Al. A .270/30-06 will do everything you need and usually do a much better job. I think a lot of guys get 7mags as a phalic symbol-"Hey look how BIG my gun is brah!"
This post was edited on 12/13/11 at 11:57 am
Posted on 12/13/11 at 12:01 pm to Mahootney
quote:
The 243 and 30-30 will be primarily closer range and smaller game weapons
Why do people just assume the .243 is a "close range" rifle? Serious question. This guy will disagree:
450 yard shot
Posted on 12/13/11 at 12:25 pm to joeygalloway9
quote:
I would be willing to spend up to $1000 on the gun
Just the rifle, or rifle and scope together at $1000
Posted on 12/13/11 at 12:32 pm to deaconjones35
quote:Should I switch them around?
Why do people just assume the .243 is a "close range" rifle? Serious question.
30-30 closer range.
243 smaller game (including deer, but not Moose, etc).
Does that make you feel better?
The guy said he only wanted to buy one gun.
That tells me that he needs a 270, 308, 30-06 depending on what he's going to be hunting.
Posted on 12/13/11 at 12:35 pm to LSU_Lou
quote:But, there may also be some very valid reasons for getting it.
I think a lot of guys get 7mags as a phalic symbol-"Hey look how BIG my gun is brah!"
It's the same thing INFIDEl said, it isn't fair to make broad generalizations about any weapon. It doesn't really matter if someone has a .243 or a 7mag, and assuming something about the hunter one way or the other is shallow.
Posted on 12/13/11 at 12:38 pm to Mahootney
quote:
Does that make you feel better?
Why yes, yes it does. Thanks a-hole! Remind me to buy you a beer at the next OB get together. Thanks BFF!
Posted on 12/13/11 at 12:43 pm to LSU_Lou
quote:
There is absolutely no need to have that large a caliber while hunting in La/Ms/Al. A .270/30-06 will do everything you need and usually do a much better job. I think a lot of guys get 7mags as a phalic symbol-"Hey look how BIG my gun is brah!
I agree. Most of the deer i have seen shot with a 7mm mag have had a bunch of wasted meat. That round is overkill on white tail IMO. The .270 gets my vote. From zero to 200 yds there is a 1.5" change in trajectory with 130 gr ballistic tips just doesn't get much better than that.
As far as rifles i love my browing A-bolt stainless stalker.
Posted on 12/13/11 at 12:47 pm to joeygalloway9
Tikka T3 in .270 WSM, best gun on the market for the price and one of the best all around calibers.
Nikon Optics are fair priced with very good glass.
You can get a T3 for around $500 and a good scope for $300.
Nikon Optics are fair priced with very good glass.
You can get a T3 for around $500 and a good scope for $300.
This post was edited on 12/13/11 at 12:50 pm
Posted on 12/13/11 at 1:01 pm to MapGuy
ive got the tc 30.06 centerfire encore pro with fluted barrel with zeiss conquest scope. i'm 8 for 8 with it including the best shot of my life. smoking a full sprint hog from about 180 yrds.
Posted on 12/13/11 at 1:16 pm to deaconjones35
quote:He's not invited.
Thanks a-hole! Remind me to buy you a beer at the next OB get together.
Posted on 12/13/11 at 1:21 pm to MapGuy
quote:
You can get a T3 for around $500 and a good scope for $300.
Do you have first hand experience with Tikka?
I was manhandling one the other day and i kinda liked it. I haver never shot a tikka...
hmmm
Posted on 12/13/11 at 1:23 pm to Bama and Beer
quote:
No worry for any misfire issues with a Rem 700
a friend of mine has a Rem 700 300 mag, and it has misfired when taking it off of safety at least 4x on him
so, its not a myth
i think the new ones have a new trigger system that has fixed this issue though
Posted on 12/13/11 at 1:26 pm to Croacka
quote:Did he have work done on the trigger?
a friend of mine has a Rem 700 300 mag, and it has misfired when taking it off of safety at least 4x on him
Posted on 12/13/11 at 1:27 pm to Croacka
quote:. Why would your friend continue to shoot this rifle.
friend of mine has a Rem 700 300 mag, and it has misfired when taking it off of safety at least 4x on him
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