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Posted on 4/12/16 at 7:54 pm to Carson123987
Carson, I've always wanted to ask you. Who are those girls in your signature pic? Are those your girlfriends? 
Posted on 4/12/16 at 7:58 pm to Carson123987
1400 round concealed carry class? Wow.
I'm trying to grasp why you would need a basic concealed carry and advanced. Seems a little much. I would think one class could cover everything.
I'm trying to grasp why you would need a basic concealed carry and advanced. Seems a little much. I would think one class could cover everything.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 7:58 pm to doublecutter
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Carson, I've always wanted to ask you. Who are those girls in your signature pic? Are those your girlfriends?
i wish
L to R: Miranda Kerr (VS model), Alicia Vikander (actress), Rachel Nichols (actress)
im about to update it with some new hoes
Posted on 4/12/16 at 7:59 pm to Hammertime
I usually shoot indoors and my gun is just way too damn loud...if that's even the term for it. Takes a few magazines to get re-accustomed to it all, then around 6th one or so I start feeling punch drunk. I've stuck around and shot ten or so mags, but that was too much. I don't shoot that often, but I'd love to work into it where I could comfortably shoot 500 rds/day. I should sell my gun and get a 9 is probably more of the reality, or just quit being a pussy.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 8:04 pm to Gaston
Speed loader and lots of mags.
I think I have like 30 ar mags in the safe loaded and really have no idea how many total. They are all over the place. Have at least like 10-15 glock mags and 10-15 Beretta 92 mags.
Bunch of mags + Lula loader = lots of time to pick instructors brains while everyone else loads. Or get extra 1 on 1 time working.
These guys are nothing like the military. Sure the military has some good, but it takes a while and is more broad. Advantage group brings real world experiences of what works and doesn't work. Is it the end all be all of guns....no...and I bet they tell you that as well. Different people have different t experiences. I saw some instructors laugh at the mag pouches with all the bungee cord. Guy had like a belt full of them, they were the new hot stuff like 5 years ago. Instructors were laughing because they trying to imagine exiting a humvee with all the loose bungee and everyhting it could get snagged on. None of them used, but that's their experiences.
I could teach anyone how to shoot, but not like most of these guys.
I think I have like 30 ar mags in the safe loaded and really have no idea how many total. They are all over the place. Have at least like 10-15 glock mags and 10-15 Beretta 92 mags.
Bunch of mags + Lula loader = lots of time to pick instructors brains while everyone else loads. Or get extra 1 on 1 time working.
These guys are nothing like the military. Sure the military has some good, but it takes a while and is more broad. Advantage group brings real world experiences of what works and doesn't work. Is it the end all be all of guns....no...and I bet they tell you that as well. Different people have different t experiences. I saw some instructors laugh at the mag pouches with all the bungee cord. Guy had like a belt full of them, they were the new hot stuff like 5 years ago. Instructors were laughing because they trying to imagine exiting a humvee with all the loose bungee and everyhting it could get snagged on. None of them used, but that's their experiences.
I could teach anyone how to shoot, but not like most of these guys.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 8:05 pm to Team Alpha Beast
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I'm trying to grasp why you would need a basic concealed carry and advanced. Seems a little much. I would think one class could cover everything.
basic concealed carry class only requires like 34 rounds or something stupid to qualify. most of the classes are a joke from an actual shooting perspective. classes like this are infinitely more valuable. you're not shooting with rednecks, grandmas, etc
I wasn't able to make the Advanced class, but it looked awesome. lots of work in and around vehicles, in extremis positions, seated shooting, etc
here's a video with a car module LINK
and some pics. every shot/shot string was off of a draw
This post was edited on 4/12/16 at 8:08 pm
Posted on 4/12/16 at 8:06 pm to Team Alpha Beast
These ridges get testy after awhile. it's an LEM, so the damn trigger pull is a mile long and so they roll across your finger pad as you get close to the break. I'm probably doing it wrong...that or my desk job is making me worthless. I used to climb 1000+ft granite rock faces, now I bitch about plastic ridges on my trigger. nice
This post was edited on 4/12/16 at 8:07 pm
Posted on 4/12/16 at 8:10 pm to Gaston
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I usually shoot indoors and my gun is just way too damn loud...if that's even the term for it.
Double ear protection helps tremendously. I usually go with surefire ep3 inside the ears and Howard Leight over the ears.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 8:11 pm to ChatRabbit77
I try to use double, but my in-ear ones are on a 'headband'...so it fricks up my over the ear. Neither are high quality, so that's probably where I'm lacking.
This post was edited on 4/12/16 at 8:13 pm
Posted on 4/12/16 at 8:12 pm to Gaston
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Neither are high quality, so that's probably where I'm lacking.
Problem solved. Invest in good Ear protection. Tinnitus is a bitch.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 8:21 pm to Carson123987
I would think the basic and advanced should be combined if it focuses on concealment and drawing.
Are they teaching basic shooting lesson in the basic class?
Are they teaching basic shooting lesson in the basic class?
Posted on 4/12/16 at 8:28 pm to Team Alpha Beast
After thinking about it though, I guess I expect shooters going through the class to be at a higher level.
It probably is better to take a slower approach and make sure everyone is proficient before you get into the high speed stuff.
It probably is better to take a slower approach and make sure everyone is proficient before you get into the high speed stuff.
This post was edited on 4/12/16 at 8:29 pm
Posted on 4/12/16 at 8:34 pm to Team Alpha Beast
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After thinking about it though, I guess I expect shooters going through the class to be at a higher level.
It probably is better to take a slower approach and make sure everyone is proficient before you get into the high speed stuff.
you can't take the Advanced Conceal Carry class without having a prior two-day pistol course or a certain IPSC certification. it's not regularly offered, it was a guest instructor's class (Mike Green) and it was $600 or so. that will weed out anyone who's not totally committed to the hobby. Chris said everyone in the class was extremely proficient
he's coming back next year. ill definitely be taking it.
This post was edited on 4/12/16 at 8:37 pm
Posted on 4/12/16 at 8:44 pm to Carson123987
I wouldn't mind going through the advanced but not interested in going through the other stuff.
Posted on 4/13/16 at 6:53 am to Team Alpha Beast
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Just curious, why you are taking that training? $300 seems like a lot for a 2 day course.
I'm taking an $800 course in the fall with 3 highly experienced instructors, one of who is Larry Vickers. It's a 3 day handgun course.
The reasons the classes are excellent:
1. A regular range will never give you the experience you get at a class. You only do static shooting, at one target, at one distance, standing.
2. Learning to shoot on the move and in uncomfortable positions tests your abilities to adapt. Some of the positions I've had to get in when taking these classes has made me an immensely better shooter.
3. You learn to shoot while having an elevated heart rate. Artificially inducing stress is the only way to simulate what it would be like to draw your gun in a defensive encounter. But nothing will ever be like the real deal. That leads me to the next point...
4. Muscle memory. How do you learn to be extremely proficient at something? Repetition. Doing the same draw stroke hundreds of times and shooting hundreds of rounds does that. Also something as simple as breaking your tunnel vision is an important piece of muscle memory that seems dumb in a class but could save your bacon one day.
5. As Carson said, the regular CC class standards are a joke. Even though I don't think they should be mandatory or exist at all, I thin everyone who chooses to carry a handgun should take a course like this. It gives you more real world experience and makes you a better shooter across the board.
Any other questions?
Posted on 4/13/16 at 8:47 am to Gaston
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1000 rounds seems like an awful lot to shoot in two days. Hell, loading 80 magazines sounds daunting.
Shooting and loading is easy. Wait until after the class when you have to pick it all up off the ground.
Posted on 4/13/16 at 8:52 am to jdavid1
Sorry for the hijack. Is carrying an exposed pistol in your waistband considered open carry?
Posted on 4/13/16 at 9:40 am to Sparkplug#1
Yes
Posted on 4/13/16 at 3:44 pm to Team Alpha Beast
I don't think you understand what we do very well. Come take a class, on me. I think you will be suprised. I get FBI Agents, Cops, Master Class IPSC Shooters, and guys with SOF Credentials in the basic classes. The fundamentals don't change and everyone needs work on them. The best shooters in the world work at being brilliant in the basics.
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