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re: Handgun Advice
Posted on 8/8/12 at 10:42 am to Tittle'sPants
Posted on 8/8/12 at 10:42 am to Tittle'sPants
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Posted on 8/8/12 at 11:17 am to Tittle'sPants
thanks for all the insight. i plan on doing a little more research before i spend my hard-earned cash.
only thing is, how do you try-out a gun? i mean, i presume gun ranges don't work like bowling alleys, where everything is provided for you??
only thing is, how do you try-out a gun? i mean, i presume gun ranges don't work like bowling alleys, where everything is provided for you??
Posted on 8/8/12 at 11:43 am to Tittle'sPants
Crack open the yellow pages and call around to the local gunshops/shooting ranges and see which ones rent guns. There will probably be a few.
Posted on 8/8/12 at 11:52 am to Tittle'sPants
Ranges rent out guns. It's worth it to spend the extra $100 to try out several firearms before buying one, rather than blindly buying one for several hundred that you may not like.
Posted on 8/8/12 at 1:07 pm to KG6
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And sorry. I once out of 500 draws didn't fully depress my grip safety. Made me think twice about pulling it while I got shot at.
This is a legitimate concern. It happens periodically to the world's top shooters during competitions ---- which is why many of them "pin' the grip safety on their 1911's.
The grip safety is one major reason why you see few, if any, LEO agencies issuing XD;s to their officers.
If anyone has trouble envisioning the the grip safety can be an issue --- think about "what if" you are grappling for the gun while your attacker is grappling for your gun. It's very likely that you won't have a perfect firing grip -- and with an XD that means it won't go "bang" even though you can pull the trigger.
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I don't like the light trigger pull with no real safety on a gun that I may stick in my pants.
Glock trigger pull isn't considered "light" relative to other semi-autos. But if it's too light for your taste, you can readily increase it with a simple Glock factory part (the "+" connector). Coversely, one can decrease the trigger pull weight with a Glock "-" connector.
This post was edited on 8/8/12 at 9:08 pm
Posted on 8/8/12 at 9:22 pm to dawg23
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You need to hold all of these guns yourself and choose what is most comfortable in your hand. There is no one-size-fits-all in the handgun world.
Very good advice, but I'd like to add one thing....don't OVER VALUE how a gun feels in your hand w/o having shot it. Now let me clarify what may sound like blasphemy.
I recently helped a friend pick out a self defense handgun. He wanted a full size, high capacity, semi auto in 9 mm. Between handling all my guns and those at a local gun show, he handled a large # of guns. Based on that alone, he most liked the S&W sd9ve (their latest reincarnation of the Sigma), 1911, Walther PPQ and Springfield XD-M. I really wanted him to like the Glock as I thought it would be a good choice for him. We later shot a number of guns, including the Glock model 17. Couldn't find an M&P locally for him to shoot. Guess what....after shooting them, he ended up liking the Glock and XD-M (as well as the 1911...after all, who does NOT like how the 1911 handles!) best of all. My point being, it's important that a gun feel well to the shooter, but it's possible for a gun to feel better to the shooter while being shot than while only being held. Shooting a gun takes into account characteristics OTHER than just how it fits in the hand (e.g. trigger, how the gun feels w/ recoil, using the controls while shooting, etc.).
By all means, see how a gun fits your hand, but also shoot some of them, as well.
BTW, I ended finding a police trace in Model 19 for $385 at www.glockmeister.
Posted on 8/8/12 at 9:26 pm to Tittle'sPants
Love to see a new person getting into the shooting sports and I feel bad for losing interest in these threads. 
Glock and Xd is probably you best answers although my personal opinion is that a revolver is a MUCH better decision for a newbie. They are simple and always go bang.
Good luck.
Glock and Xd is probably you best answers although my personal opinion is that a revolver is a MUCH better decision for a newbie. They are simple and always go bang.
Good luck.
Posted on 8/8/12 at 9:27 pm to INFIDEL
Oh, and for the LOVE OF GOD don't buy a fricking Judge.
Posted on 8/8/12 at 10:52 pm to xenon16
I just bought my third gun. I am using it as a keep in the truck gun. It's a Taurus 738, 380, it's tiny and shoots well. I have shot all kinds of guns, but I prefer smaller ammos as I can shoot them more.
I have a Beretta 22LR Semi, a S&W .38Spl, and the 738.
I still want a Judge just to have, but I also want a 1911. I doubt I'll ever shoot someone, so I just get the guns that I can shoot at the range for cheap.
I have a Beretta 22LR Semi, a S&W .38Spl, and the 738.
I still want a Judge just to have, but I also want a 1911. I doubt I'll ever shoot someone, so I just get the guns that I can shoot at the range for cheap.
Posted on 8/9/12 at 11:19 am to Napoleon
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Oh, and for the LOVE OF GOD don't buy a fricking Judge.
HaHa! I was wondering who was going to be the first to mention the Judge!
Posted on 8/9/12 at 11:41 am to TigerOnThe Hill
As has been said before, shotgun for home defense is the best answer.
It isn't sexy. It isn't a handgun. But it works the best.
Fact is, unless you are going to practice with a handgun, it is much more difficult to shoot accurately that a shotgun. And a shotgun doesn't need to be shot as accurately anyways.
It isn't sexy. It isn't a handgun. But it works the best.
Fact is, unless you are going to practice with a handgun, it is much more difficult to shoot accurately that a shotgun. And a shotgun doesn't need to be shot as accurately anyways.
Posted on 8/9/12 at 3:07 pm to Napoleon
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but I prefer smaller ammos as I can shoot them more.
Well a small .380 is really not a fun range gun at all, and is actually more expensive than 9mm, so I don't know what you're basing this information on. But hey, different strokes for different folks. 22s are cheap and fun anyway.
I agree with you Tigeronthehill. I thought I would like an XD or XDm because I liked how it felt in my hand. But I could never do well with that trigger, even though I'm used to my Beretta trigger that breaks very far to the rear. I just never got comfortable on XD's. But M&Ps are my bread and butter. Oh, and 1911s of course
. But you're definitely right. If you go to a local range, they usually have the same basic lineup of entry-level handguns at the ready. This could include M&Ps, XDs, Ruger SR series, and I'm sure easiest of all to find would be Glock. Pay a bit of extra money to test before you buy and I think you'll pick the right one.
Posted on 8/9/12 at 7:54 pm to TigerOnThe Hill
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Very good advice, but I'd like to add one thing....don't OVER VALUE how a gun feels in your hand w/o having shot it. Now let me clarify what may sound like blasphemy.
I recently helped a friend pick out a self defense handgun. He wanted a full size, high capacity, semi auto in 9 mm. Between handling all my guns and those at a local gun show, he handled a large # of guns. Based on that alone, he most liked the S&W sd9ve (their latest reincarnation of the Sigma), 1911, Walther PPQ and Springfield XD-M. I really wanted him to like the Glock as I thought it would be a good choice for him. We later shot a number of guns, including the Glock model 17. Couldn't find an M&P locally for him to shoot. Guess what....after shooting them, he ended up liking the Glock and XD-M (as well as the 1911...after all, who does NOT like how the 1911 handles!) best of all. My point being, it's important that a gun feel well to the shooter, but it's possible for a gun to feel better to the shooter while being shot than while only being held. Shooting a gun takes into account characteristics OTHER than just how it fits in the hand (e.g. trigger, how the gun feels w/ recoil, using the controls while shooting, etc.).
By all means, see how a gun fits your hand, but also shoot some of them, as well.
Excellent advice -- and well written.
Think about it -- when you test drive a new car or truck, it will "feel funny" compared to your current vehicle. But in a short period of time it will "feel" natural.
A handgun should be bought for a specific need --- self defense vs. plinking vs. bullseye target shooting vs. hunting, etc. Its intended use should lead you to certain traits that you want (or don't want).
Unless the gun is simply too big to grip or conceal, or simply too small to allow controlled follow-up shots, the "feel" of a gun "at the counter" is an incredibly over-rated attribute.
This post was edited on 8/10/12 at 11:41 am
Posted on 8/10/12 at 12:17 am to Tittle'sPants
you can pick up a Sig 2022 for $399 at academy. I guarantee you'll like it. My hands are not picky, and they were even less picky when I was new to shooting.
Search for used handguns find good deals and you can start buying and selling them until you fall in love with one. you get to shoot each one several times and learn what is important and what's not and what you like and what you don't. again, if you find good deals, all of this will be free, or, in my case, make money.
I started with a Ruger super blackhawk 44 magnum and eventually ended up with a CZ 75. I got to own and shoot a bunch of guns in between.
I only really disliked one gun, and I will refrain from naming it because it will hurt someone's feelings
Search for used handguns find good deals and you can start buying and selling them until you fall in love with one. you get to shoot each one several times and learn what is important and what's not and what you like and what you don't. again, if you find good deals, all of this will be free, or, in my case, make money.
I started with a Ruger super blackhawk 44 magnum and eventually ended up with a CZ 75. I got to own and shoot a bunch of guns in between.
I only really disliked one gun, and I will refrain from naming it because it will hurt someone's feelings
Posted on 8/10/12 at 12:34 am to Tittle'sPants
Spend the extra cash and get an HK P2000 or P30 in 9mm. It makes a world of difference.
Posted on 8/10/12 at 12:36 am to dawg23
TOTH always has solid advice. One of the few who posts completely unbiased accurate shite.
My biased oppinion is a. 38spl revolver, for a newb truck gun and an 870 express youth 20ga for everybody's house gun. You shouldn't carry until you are very familiar with guns IMO.
My biased oppinion is a. 38spl revolver, for a newb truck gun and an 870 express youth 20ga for everybody's house gun. You shouldn't carry until you are very familiar with guns IMO.
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