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re: Duck boats in Venice....

Posted on 1/8/17 at 10:24 pm to
Posted by TJP
deep south
Member since Jul 2006
153 posts
Posted on 1/8/17 at 10:24 pm to
How this is not more common is beyond me. Went sat AM in 24' bay boat and could not imagine being in anything less. I still don't see how it's even possible to run the river in a typical surface drive rig.
Posted by Redfish2010
Member since Jul 2007
15169 posts
Posted on 1/9/17 at 4:09 am to
Pick your days. I've run to pass a loutre in mine with a big boat following me. Run with no gear to keep it light. Wait until the sun comes up. Wear your life jacket and make sure the kill switch is attached. I find the Mississippi easier to run than the Atchaflaya
Posted by fishfighter
RIP
Member since Apr 2008
40026 posts
Posted on 1/9/17 at 4:56 am to
I ran that river for many years. Had to pluck a couple people out in the pass. From Oct to April, there will always be a high chance of fog or high water. Radar is a must. Many of times I left out only to return in fog. Had seen fog set in for three plus days.

High water, I had ran over logs just under the surface, loosing a wheel. I know of a few people that has done this too.

They are some crazy people out there. Best was two guys showing up at the Midnight Lump looking to tuna fish in January in a 18' flatbottom boat.

Guys, always have a good VHF radio, if not two. Register them with your contact info.
Posted by JasonL79
Member since Jan 2010
6397 posts
Posted on 1/9/17 at 6:46 am to
quote:

keep the following on my boat in the winter Tarps Space blankets Old sleeping bag 2 pairs clothes MREs Extensive first aid kit Flare gun Back up VHF battery jumper for boat and cell phone Float coats PLBx 2 EPRIB Extra bilge pump Extra plug and a whole lot of other stuff I probably can't think of. I put what I use on here to possibly help people maybe it will...


Good info.
Posted by Martini
Near Athens
Member since Mar 2005
48847 posts
Posted on 1/9/17 at 6:46 am to
I had a houseboat at Port Eads for a decade and ran the river in a 24' Wellcraft and many times it got hairy. That was as small as I was going to ride in. That fog at Head of Pass will stop you dead in the water and with a ship pushing upriver you are a sitting duck.

Buzzy was never that important for me to see him quickly. I sat at the launch more than once waiting.
Posted by JasonL79
Member since Jan 2010
6397 posts
Posted on 1/9/17 at 7:01 am to
quote:

. I find the Mississippi easier to run than the Atchaflaya


Why is this?
Posted by Redfish2010
Member since Jul 2007
15169 posts
Posted on 1/9/17 at 7:05 am to
The rock walls on the Mississippi are usually calm enough run down, until you get to main pass.

The atchaflaya is full of sand bars and winds side to side. The Mississippi is a pretty straight shot
Posted by WHODAT514
Walker, La
Member since Mar 2012
1870 posts
Posted on 1/9/17 at 7:28 am to
quote:

The rock walls on the Mississippi are usually calm enough run down, until you get to main pass. The atchaflaya is full of sand bars and winds side to side. The Mississippi is a pretty straight shot


he's right, the rocks on each side can be slick and you go 20 yards into the river and it will have 3-4' swells. was like that a few weeks ago.

the atchafalya is curvy and like fish said has sand bars and the winds can be bad, we got stuck in some rough crap in that river last season.
Posted by jdavid1
Member since Jan 2014
2466 posts
Posted on 1/9/17 at 7:58 am to
Any updates on the guys?
Posted by CajunCommander
FloodZone
Member since Jan 2015
1844 posts
Posted on 1/9/17 at 8:02 am to
quote:

we got stuck in some rough crap in that river last season.


I think I've heard this story before..... you should elaborate...
Posted by JasonL79
Member since Jan 2010
6397 posts
Posted on 1/9/17 at 8:03 am to
quote:

The rock walls on the Mississippi are usually calm enough run down, until you get to main pass. The atchaflaya is full of sand bars and winds side to side. The Mississippi is a pretty straight shot


I've never ran the Atchafalaya before so I don't know. Wouldn't think they would have as much boat traffic (ships/supply boats/etc.). The windiness makes sense causing it to be rough.

As for those rocks, I would much rather a sand bank. If you break down in the river, the wind can blow you into those rocks and do some bad things. During a cold front the predominate wind is northeast and it makes the east side of the river calm. But if you get the right north wind, it can be brutal running up that river.
This post was edited on 1/9/17 at 8:04 am
Posted by Redfish2010
Member since Jul 2007
15169 posts
Posted on 1/9/17 at 8:05 am to
I'm not an expert and surely am not advocating for anyone to take my advice. Just my observations from experience in both of them. Both are dangerous and should be approached with caution. The most important thing I've learned is avoiding rivers on days with heavy north winds.

I think the dangers of fog speak for itself.
Posted by JasonL79
Member since Jan 2010
6397 posts
Posted on 1/9/17 at 8:08 am to
quote:

Any updates on the guys?


I posted the update on the last page. Guys were ok. I was at the pilot station the same day and talked to some of the pilots there. They had to strip them down, wrap them in blankets and put them in front of heaters for a while. Plaq Parish police and EMS came and checked them out. See below for my update from last page:

"They were ok the same day. No major injuries that I heard of. One of the guys had a gash on his face. They were lucky they got to them quick.

Friend at bar pilots said a ship had radioed the pilots to help remove a boat from the ship channel. Apparently their running lights were still working even though they captsized. Bar pilot went out there to investigate and had to rescue them."
This post was edited on 1/9/17 at 8:11 am
Posted by Barf
EBR
Member since Feb 2015
3727 posts
Posted on 1/9/17 at 8:14 am to
Is there not a safer way down to the WMA?. We use to just cross the river into baptiste collette before turning south, and that was bad enough. It's hard to imagine running down river the whole way in a duck boat.

What surprises me even more than the duck boats are the Florida fly fishing guides. I don' know how they don't sink a couple of boats every year.
Posted by Vlad
North AL
Member since May 2012
2605 posts
Posted on 1/9/17 at 8:33 am to
quote:

I keep the following on my boat in the winter
Tarps
Space blankets
Old sleeping bag
2 pairs clothes
MREs
Extensive first aid kit
Flare gun
Back up VHF
battery jumper for boat and cell phone
Float coats
PLBx 2
EPRIB
Extra bilge pump
Extra plug and a whole lot of other stuff I probably can't think of. I put what I use on here to possibly help people maybe it will...
I do good to remember my gun and shells...
Posted by jdavid1
Member since Jan 2014
2466 posts
Posted on 1/9/17 at 8:39 am to
quote:

Is there not a safer way down to the WMA?.


Big boat with radar is the best way to get down there. I've run a duck boat down river several times. It can be done safely, but I won't run in the dark or in the fog. A duck just is not worth risking it to me. If you hug the rocks and watch for ship's wake you will be good until you get to head of pass. That's where it gets sketchy.
Posted by 34venture
Buffer Zone
Member since Mar 2010
11369 posts
Posted on 1/9/17 at 8:56 am to
I have a question. What time do ya'll leave in the mornings to make the run downriver, then to your spot and be set up for daylight?
Posted by reds on reds on reds
Birmingham
Member since Sep 2013
4205 posts
Posted on 1/9/17 at 9:00 am to
Im thankful my buddy has a lease 10 minutes from venice Marina. Been down the river a couple times in a 27' CC with radar/etc. and it got hairy more than once.
Posted by Redfish2010
Member since Jul 2007
15169 posts
Posted on 1/9/17 at 9:04 am to
Offshore boat hunting delta, we leave at dark.

Going down river in surface drive... leave after day light with a mother ship following.
Posted by jdavid1
Member since Jan 2014
2466 posts
Posted on 1/9/17 at 9:07 am to
We usually leave on an afternoon then hunt the following morning. We camp out down there.
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