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re: Duck boats in Venice....
Posted on 1/10/17 at 9:28 am to Barf
Posted on 1/10/17 at 9:28 am to Barf
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You don't get to build a camp on a canal and then act like a child when people use the canal.
This situation isnt a single camp on a waterway. It's lined on both sides with camps on a very tight waterway, call it less than 30 yards.
There was a no wake sign posted at the corner of main pass. I have no idea if it was a legal sign. Regardless, it would be very dangerous to run through there with any real speed plus basically a really dick move to throw a wake. Should guns have been involved, of course not.
I'll ask if there was an airboat accident there.
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Posted on 1/10/17 at 9:28 am to Barf
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You don't get to build a camp on a canal and then act like a child when people use the canal.
You slept ok last night Barf? I am worried about you, these ignorant posts you have been making this morning are so out of character for you.
Please explain where anyone was blocked from using the canal, I even pointed out in my original post that blocking access would be bullshite and wrong. Again, it boils down to common decency and a respect for other people's shite. If you are in a narrow canal with boats obviously tied up to the docks, would you run your little skiff wide open past them just because you can?
I am sure you would, but most people who are aware of others would probably choose to slow down while passing. Maybe even give a nod or exchange a couple pleasantries while they pass as well. In a place that is as remote and hazardous as Venice, you never know when your paths will cross with that person again. Maybe you spun a prop and need a tow, maybe a squall pops up unexpectedly and you need to take shelter under his dock. If you spend enough time down river there will come a time where you will need the help of a stranger, people with camps down there know this and are typically willing to help anyone they can.
The original Camp Canal we were talking about that started this discussion is only about 30ft wide and has a stretch of about 10 camps over a couple hundred yard and as I said a lot of guys keep small boats pulled up partially on the bank. If you feel it is necessary to run this stretch wide open you may possibly be a bigger prick than your schtick suggests.
Posted on 1/10/17 at 9:40 am to bluemoons
I'll be there this weekend. Results from last weekend made me jealous enough to return
Posted on 1/10/17 at 9:43 am to Whatafrekinchessiebr
29.235987,-89.339888
Check the area out. If boats were docked across from each other, there would be about 50ft. Theread used to a lot more camps, docks, plus a large oak tree canopy.
This dead horse is thoroughly beaten.
Check the area out. If boats were docked across from each other, there would be about 50ft. Theread used to a lot more camps, docks, plus a large oak tree canopy.
This dead horse is thoroughly beaten.
Posted on 1/10/17 at 9:47 am to choupiquesushi
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many bass boats throw less of a wake at full speed than idle
I will take the bait on this one, because of your post history I know you know better and have more respect for others then Barf. Both of the camp canals being discussed are extremely narrow waterways with high banks and small boats tied up. If you think that running this stretch wide open (which would be 80 miles an hour??) is going to create less wake than PROPERLY idling the 300 yards of camps I don't know what to tell you.
On a busy larger waterway, the argument could be made that it is better to pass wide open instead of slowing down at the last second then plowing past whoever you are trying to pass at 10 miles an hour throwing a huge wake but this is just an example of someone who does not know how to properly pass on idle (I know you know better).
Posted on 1/10/17 at 9:52 am to pjab
Camp Canal off of PAL
Yeah, we were talking about 2 different Camp Canals but the principle is the same.
Yeah, we were talking about 2 different Camp Canals but the principle is the same.
This post was edited on 1/10/17 at 9:58 am
Posted on 1/10/17 at 10:06 am to Whatafrekinchessiebr
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quote:
many bass boats throw less of a wake at full speed than idle
I will take the bait on this one, because of your post history I know you know better and have more respect for others then Barf. Both of the camp canals being discussed are extremely narrow waterways with high banks and small boats tied up. If you think that running this stretch wide open (which would be 80 miles an hour??) is going to create less wake than PROPERLY idling the 300 yards of camps I don't know what to tell you.
On a busy larger waterway, the argument could be made that it is better to pass wide open instead of slowing down at the last second then plowing past whoever you are trying to pass at 10 miles an hour throwing a huge wake but this is just an example of someone who does not know how to properly pass on idle (I know you know better).
ok.. fair enough I thought it was wider...
Posted on 1/10/17 at 10:06 am to Whatafrekinchessiebr
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it boils down to common decency and a respect for other people's shite.
No. It boils down to people building camps on navigation canals and then trying to enforce their own arbitrary rules.
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If you are in a narrow canal with boats obviously tied up to the docks, would you run your little skiff wide open past them just because you can?
If no it's a no wake zone, then of course not. If it's a navigation canal then yes. Deal with it, or quit bitching and buy a lift.
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The original Camp Canal we were talking about that started this discussion is only about 30ft wide and has a stretch of about 10 camps over a couple hundred yard and as I said a lot of guys keep small boats pulled up partially on the bank.
Sounds like a shitty place to build a camp, perhaps they should have taken that into consideration.
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If you feel it is necessary to run this stretch wide open you may possibly be a bigger prick than your schtick suggests.
If you feel it's necessary to take it upon yourself to make up speed limits, then you're the dickhead.
Buzzing someones dock is one thing, using a navigation canal for navigating is a completely different thing.
This post was edited on 1/10/17 at 10:07 am
Posted on 1/10/17 at 10:13 am to Whatafrekinchessiebr
The one upriver is the one where the bassmaster shooting occurred. The one show in the link is where our camp is located. You could maybe get away with it once, but if you came back by at half or full throttle again, there are some guys along there that may just throw a warning shot your way. Especially depending on how many drinks they have consumed at the time...Not to mention the guys at the facility at the end do not look to kindly on people throwing their crew boats into the barge.
Posted on 1/10/17 at 10:21 am to LSUengr
Comon man, that's nothing but a bunch of big swinging dick talk.
I don't fish Venice anymore but I've run these canals dozens upon dozens of times, both at idle and on plane. Never once did I get anymore other than a wave.
I don't fish Venice anymore but I've run these canals dozens upon dozens of times, both at idle and on plane. Never once did I get anymore other than a wave.
This post was edited on 1/10/17 at 10:25 am
Posted on 1/10/17 at 10:25 am to Da Hammer
This thread is going exactly how I thought it would 
Posted on 1/10/17 at 10:26 am to PapaPogey
what happens after a return warning shot?
Posted on 1/10/17 at 10:30 am to LSUengr
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LSUengr
Which camp is yall's camp? Friends of mine have the houseboat on that canal.
Posted on 1/10/17 at 10:30 am to Barf
Don't construe that to say you would get one from our camp because that is not our style. We would just shout you down. However, there are some guys down the way that may take the liberty just like the guy upriver did. I never believed it would happen up there either, but it did.
Posted on 1/10/17 at 10:33 am to PapaPogey
Barf bitching about the ethics and legalities of public/private waterways?
Posted on 1/10/17 at 10:36 am to jdavid1
We are near the end closest to the facility. Houseboat guys looked to have just finished their camp.
Posted on 1/10/17 at 10:39 am to LSUengr
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Don't construe that to say you would get one from our camp because that is not our style. We would just shout you down.
By why? That's what I don't understand. On what grounds do you feel entitled to decide who can pass and at what speed? It's the equivalent of buying a house on a busy street and then screaming at everyone who you feel is driving too fast.
Look, I've never buzzed anyone's dock in my life and I've never had anyone shoot or yell at me. I've also never slowed down for bullshite fake no wake zone signs.
Everyone saying you should slow down for every idiot who built a camp on a navigation canal is nothing more than dopey talk. Dopey dumb dumb talk.
Posted on 1/10/17 at 10:53 am to Barf
Just like streets, different water ways have different common sense rules. Any canal that is navigable technically you can boat down it how you please. However, throwing a wake down the camp canals is effectively the same as driving 60 mph down a residential street. It isn't appropriate based on common sense.
Posted on 1/10/17 at 11:03 am to LSUengr
Streets have legal speed limits set by law makers. Canals have speed limits that are based off how many beers the owners have had that day or how ornery the guy at the end of the line can be. Maybe I have never had an issue because none of my skiffs have ever been able to exceed 35 mph.
It's not up the the camp owners to decide how a canal should be used, unless they own the canal. You can not expect people to follow your rules just because you think they should. You're not taking the moral high ground by shouting or shooting at people.
It's not up the the camp owners to decide how a canal should be used, unless they own the canal. You can not expect people to follow your rules just because you think they should. You're not taking the moral high ground by shouting or shooting at people.
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