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re: Deer Rifle for 14 yo girl

Posted on 2/2/19 at 8:06 pm to
Posted by LSUA 75
Colfax,La.
Member since Jan 2019
4665 posts
Posted on 2/2/19 at 8:06 pm to
7mm-08.Thompson Center Venture.
Posted by Ol boy
Member since Oct 2018
4017 posts
Posted on 2/2/19 at 8:11 pm to
Deathly afraid of recoil and 30-06 prolly shouldn’t be in the same discussion. A youth model savage axis in most any popular short action caliber .24 and greater will do the job at the ranges your talking about. Just keep in mind that some of the small rifles due to weight seem to kick harder than the larger caliber heavy rifles.
Posted by Tiguh Thumb
Liberty, Ms
Member since Feb 2019
117 posts
Posted on 2/2/19 at 8:19 pm to
7mm-08 Thompson Center Venture excellent for the money
Posted by mtcheral
BR
Member since Oct 2008
2084 posts
Posted on 2/2/19 at 8:24 pm to
I got a weatherby vanguard youth. Not sure of price because I got it at cost from my FiL who is a dealer. That’s how how know it was even the distributors that were out of 7-08’s and not just one store. This was before Xmas so that may have changed. I’d guess about 500 retail and that was about the same as all the 7-08’s I was looking at.
Posted by biggsc
Member since Mar 2009
34750 posts
Posted on 2/2/19 at 8:26 pm to
I’m looking at a good deer rifle under $500
Posted by TigerOnThe Hill
Springhill, LA
Member since Sep 2008
7457 posts
Posted on 2/2/19 at 8:32 pm to
Short answer: 260 Rem, 7-08 Rem or possibly 308 Win.

The question of gun recommendations for newbie hunter always brings a lot of opinions and suggestions. For AR guys, I'd suggest the 6.5 Grendel or 300 Blackout. In bolt guns I'd personally suggest a 260 Rem, 7-08, 308 Win, 270 Win or 30-06. The 6.5 Creedmore will work too, but be aware ahead of time re: local availability of ammo. My local Walmart doesn't carry the CM nor the 7-08. In addition, I don't think the CM has reduced recoil loads yet. A few have already mentioned using reduced recoil/managed recoil loads and I agree. A reduced recoil 308 Win load actually has less recoil than a full power 243. W/ equal bullet weights, a short action round like the 308 Win will always recoil less than a similar long action round, like the 30-06, because the short round uses less powder. You may want to look at a youth rifle. Be sure the gun/stock fits the girl. Some gun makers, e.g Mossberg, make a youth rifle that has an adjustable length of pull by means of different thicknesses of the butt pad. If they get a regular youth rifle that can't be adjusted one can always later buy an adult stock as the hunter grows. Or one could add the the length of pull using a slip on recoil pad. The Axis looks to be a good gun. The only Mossberg bolt action I shot was very accurate. I have a Marlin bolt action that's also very inexpensive. When shooting at the range, insist on them using both the foam ear plugs and ear muffs. Consider using a "sissy pad" (small sand bag between shoulder and recoil pad) at the range. Be sure the gun has a nice recoil pad (Limbsaver or Kick Eez are two than come to mind). While the 6.5 CM is a fine cartridge, a lot of its current popularity is based in culture, not results. For hunting , it has no advantages over the 7-08 or 260 Rem and minimal advantages over the 308 (the CM will have slightly reduced recoil).

When my son was 10 years old I was faced w/ the same decision. I bought him a Savage bolt action (w/ the scope included) in 308 Win. I almost went w/ the 7-08, but this was before factory reduced recoil loads. I planned on making my own reduced loads and already had everything to do so w/ the 308. OTOH, fast forward 15 years later and I now have a 7-08 handgun. Last fall I bought a Thompson/Center Compass in 7-08 for a "grand child's" deer rifle.



Posted by biggsc
Member since Mar 2009
34750 posts
Posted on 2/2/19 at 8:36 pm to
Thanks
Posted by sparkinator
Lake Claiborne
Member since Dec 2007
4981 posts
Posted on 2/2/19 at 8:42 pm to
7mm08 and Hornady reduces recoil loads. That’s a sweet shooting combo.

It’s loud, but very little recoil. Make sure she has good ear protection because that can sometimes be as painful to kids as the recoil.

Savage axis 2 in 7mm08 with a scope and mounts can usually be found for around $300 and it’s a very good starter rifle. Light and inexpensive and all a new hunter needs.
This post was edited on 2/2/19 at 8:44 pm
Posted by DeoreDX
Member since Oct 2010
4243 posts
Posted on 2/2/19 at 9:03 pm to
Inside 250 yards 6.5grendel is a great low recoil option.
Posted by jgthunt
Walker
Member since Feb 2010
2651 posts
Posted on 2/2/19 at 9:20 pm to
I've got a ruger deerfield 44 mag and ruger 6.5 grendel. Plan on letting my girls shoot these. Low recoil and deadly on deer and hogs.
Posted by ZoneLiftGMC
Member since Oct 2010
909 posts
Posted on 2/2/19 at 9:37 pm to
I’m big on .270 right now.
Posted by greenbean
USAF Retired - 31 years
Member since Feb 2019
6139 posts
Posted on 2/2/19 at 9:40 pm to
She used the bottom line Rossi .243 (I've owned one too) this past season, it's a terrible rifle. He wants to move her up to a larger caliber that she can use for the rest of her life.

In my house, we shoot the 30.06 (my daughter killed her first with one at age 14 and my youngest son started shooting one at age 11). My coworker's daughter is scared of any recoil, so a 30.06 is out for her.

The 6.5 CM is only ten years old, but has taken Mississippi by storm. I don't know anything about the caliber, other than what I have read.
This post was edited on 2/2/19 at 9:42 pm
Posted by jgthunt
Walker
Member since Feb 2010
2651 posts
Posted on 2/2/19 at 9:49 pm to
Creedmoor is a great round, but don't get caught up in the hype. There are plenty of rounds just as good that have been around a lot longer but don't have a cool new name. For a kid, take a pick of anything suggested in this thread in a rifle that fits and buy it. Spend more money on the glass.
Posted by oleyeller
Vols, Bitch
Member since Oct 2012
32600 posts
Posted on 2/2/19 at 10:00 pm to
quote:

The 6.5 CM is only ten years old, but has taken Mississippi by storm. I don't know anything about the caliber, other than what I have read.


Got a cheap thompson center compass in 6.5cm last summer with some gift cards. Put a burris droptine scope on it. Hunted all year with it. Took to missouri hunting.. and it is probaly the most accurate rifle i own. I shoot barnes 129 grain out of it. And its a legit tack driver. Killed a 9pt in missouri, and a 9pt here in mississippi. Both were through and through shots, nice blood. Highly recommend the caliber, and honestly cant say enough about the freaking $250 rifle. It shoots as good as any gun I own.
Posted by tenfoe
Member since Jun 2011
6952 posts
Posted on 2/2/19 at 10:00 pm to
My daughters have been stacking deer like cord wood since age 7 with a 7mm-08. They can shoot it for the rest of their lives as well. Ammo availability isn’t an argument anymore for any cartridges, as you can get anything you want on the internet shipped to your house (or office if you are like me and want to hide it from your wife).
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
71163 posts
Posted on 2/2/19 at 10:03 pm to
A well fitted 7mm-08 is the right answer.

Fit is by far the most important factor.
Posted by Catahoula20LSU
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2011
2900 posts
Posted on 2/2/19 at 10:29 pm to
Savage Axis in .308 with the reduced recoil round. Kicks less and makes less noise than that Rossi .243. Get a better scope than the Bushnell that comes with it though.
Posted by 257WBY
Member since Feb 2014
7267 posts
Posted on 2/2/19 at 11:25 pm to
Why not another .243?
Posted by Buck_Rogers
Member since Jul 2013
2073 posts
Posted on 2/2/19 at 11:30 pm to
I guess she got too good for a 243 to kill a deer?
Posted by Got Blaze
Youngsville
Member since Dec 2013
9918 posts
Posted on 2/2/19 at 11:52 pm to
quote:

A coworker is moving his daughter up form a cheap Rossi .243 and needs suggestions. His daughter is deathly afraid of recoil. After some research, a 6.5 CM has piqued my interest.


FYI, the 6.5CM has more recoil than a 243. Why not recommend a nicer bolt action 243 since she already shoots this cartridge ?


my suggestion... this Savage axis in 243 with pink muddy girl camo is perfect for a 14 yr old. Priced at $395 with a 3x9 scope

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