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Posted on 6/26/22 at 9:56 pm to SouthernInsanity
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SIG P365/9mm - either the standard or XL version or as i did, use the XL frame on the standard 365. Can be bought w/safety.
SIG P938/9mm - miniature 1911 IMO and has a 1911 style safety.
SIG P238/.380 - same as the P938, just different caliber. BOTH can be good front pocket carry.
SIG P320/9mm - carry or find a subcompact version. Grip modules are good because you can get a size that you like. Multiple P320 options out there.
S&W Shield or new Shield Plus/9mm - can also be bought with a safety.
Canik TP9 SC/9mm - great trigger and great price point!!
H&K VP9/9mm - the only H&K pistols i like have the push button mag release vs the paddle release.
Glock 43X/9mm - get the Shield Arms mags to have that double stack luxury. If you can find an MOS version, then you can add an optic later if you want.
Glock 45 or 19x/9mm - I'm no Glock fan boy, but i love my 19x. It's the only Glock i own.
In the end, go someplace where you can lay hands on and a place that doesn't mind you checking out the trigger. I believe Academy is one, that WILL NOT remove the trigger lock.
Stay safe!
I have both the 2.0 and the Plus. Excellent, excellent pistols.
The 2.0 gives you a 7 and 8 rnd capacity and the Plus gives you a 10 and 13 rnd capacity with virtually no difference in size. Also, both have safeties.
Posted on 6/26/22 at 10:07 pm to Pandy Fackler
I don't. CM9 is double action. It's not accidentally going off.
Posted on 6/26/22 at 11:49 pm to Royalfisher
How many “automatic” pistols were discussed in this so called class?? You honestly think you could grab the barrel of a Glock 19 which is a SEMIAUTOMATIC pistol and keep it from firing?
Edit: your too ignorant to understand that…you do understand that because the slide doesn’t blow back (I’m not conceding that you can grab the barrel and hold the slide from ejecting and reloading a round) doesn’t mean that the firing pin doesn’t strike the primer and send the lead down range. You need to stop watch CNN and movies and come over to Realville.
Edit: your too ignorant to understand that…you do understand that because the slide doesn’t blow back (I’m not conceding that you can grab the barrel and hold the slide from ejecting and reloading a round) doesn’t mean that the firing pin doesn’t strike the primer and send the lead down range. You need to stop watch CNN and movies and come over to Realville.
This post was edited on 6/26/22 at 11:54 pm
Posted on 6/27/22 at 6:15 am to oldskule
Your post is ILLOGICAL sir.
Why are inexperienced and children handling your CONCEALED carry gun? We have other problems if strangers or kids are reaching into your pants.
Law enforcement carry is no different than citizen carry - in fact - law enforcement has a higher percentage of so called negligent discharges using your reasoning as we are around 100x the amount or n’er do wells and drawing of said Glocks constantly to qualify, train, use of force, etc.
The objective FACTS are that law enforcement officers do NOT have a slew of negligent discharges involving Glocks or other makes with trigger action safeties.
Practice, practice, practice regardless. A failure to train and often is akin to someone who shoots a bow to get it sighted in, then carries it in their truck for years and decides to take it hunting one day and is shocked when they wound an animal.
If you’re worried about kids accessing the firearm, no thumb safety will be the deterrent to their curiosity and harm. Remove the magazine and separate it from the handgun. No bullets, no bang.
Why are inexperienced and children handling your CONCEALED carry gun? We have other problems if strangers or kids are reaching into your pants.
Law enforcement carry is no different than citizen carry - in fact - law enforcement has a higher percentage of so called negligent discharges using your reasoning as we are around 100x the amount or n’er do wells and drawing of said Glocks constantly to qualify, train, use of force, etc.
The objective FACTS are that law enforcement officers do NOT have a slew of negligent discharges involving Glocks or other makes with trigger action safeties.
Practice, practice, practice regardless. A failure to train and often is akin to someone who shoots a bow to get it sighted in, then carries it in their truck for years and decides to take it hunting one day and is shocked when they wound an animal.
If you’re worried about kids accessing the firearm, no thumb safety will be the deterrent to their curiosity and harm. Remove the magazine and separate it from the handgun. No bullets, no bang.
This post was edited on 6/27/22 at 6:26 am
Posted on 6/27/22 at 8:05 am to dawg23
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There are even more millions of revolvers that don't have external safeties
There's a big difference in a double action pistol and a striker fired pistol. It's not easy to pull the trigger on a DA gun and it would be impossible to do accidentally.
I have a hard time understanding people not wanting a manual safety. Have any of you EVER went to shoot a duck and forgot to take the safety off? It has never happened to me. You're going to handle your gun many many times more than you'll actually use it. You can just leave the safety off when carrying if you want. There's so many potential positives and no negatives to having one. People act like having a manual safety is the same as having an unloaded gun.
Posted on 6/27/22 at 8:16 am to ElDawgHawg
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I have been hearing the “let the gun pick you” comment a lot
There is a lot of truth to this. I hated Glock's at first but I grew to love them because they are dependable, easy to operate and cheap.
Also, don't get caught up in optics and replacement sights for your gun. When learning how to shoot and carry you need to just put money into ammo for practice. You should be able to put multiple shots on center mass from 10 yards.
Posted on 6/27/22 at 9:36 am to DownshiftAndFloorIt
Duck hunting is not even in the same universe as handling a firearm in a deadly use of force scenario.
Ducks don’t attack kamikaze style; people do.
Under extreme stress fine motor skills deteriorate to your training, as extensive studies of use of force incidents show. That’s why so many law enforcement agencies have moved to trigger (safe action systems).
Ducks don’t attack kamikaze style; people do.
Under extreme stress fine motor skills deteriorate to your training, as extensive studies of use of force incidents show. That’s why so many law enforcement agencies have moved to trigger (safe action systems).
Posted on 6/27/22 at 9:49 am to Pandy Fackler
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The 2.0 gives you a 7 and 8 rnd capacity and the Plus gives you a 10 and 13 rnd capacity with virtually no difference in size. Also, both have safeties.
The only size difference between the Plus and the 1.0/2.0 is in the grip, starting about halfway down the trigger space. The slides are identical and I'm 99.9% sure can be interchanged. It works fine for a function check but I haven't live fired it yet.
While mine has a safety I do NOT consider it a functional safety for carry. I might put it on if I'm doing something, swapping holster, whatever, but it's way too small to try to operate under stress. Once I'm carrying mine is off, always.
Posted on 6/27/22 at 10:25 am to ElDawgHawg
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About to go through concealed carry class
Get you a Ruger 22/45.
Thank me later.
Posted on 6/27/22 at 2:27 pm to ElDawgHawg
MR920 is an excellent firearm. Basically a Glock 19 on steroids. Hold out more money and get the War Poet edition. I have the older MR918 and I love it. The customer service is excellent. HQ in Plano TX.
However I carry a Kimber 1911 Ultra Carry II in 45acp.
However I carry a Kimber 1911 Ultra Carry II in 45acp.
Posted on 6/27/22 at 3:34 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Have any of you EVER went to shoot a duck and forgot to take the safety off?
I've seen folks at the range flinch anticipating recoil that never came because they forgot the safety.
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You can just leave the safety off when carrying if you want.
Then just get a Glock.
Really, in a proper holster there is no way a Glock or anything similar is just going to go off without a deliberate trigger pull. I think Glocks are more drop-safe than some DA's too.
Posted on 6/27/22 at 4:08 pm to DownshiftAndFloorIt
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I have a hard time understanding people not wanting a manual safety. Have any of you EVER went to shoot a duck and forgot to take the safety off?
I'm a coach on my son's trap team.
these kids shoot thousands of rounds a year.
Every practice you will have a kid either forget to take the safety off or completely forget to load the gun.
Posted on 6/27/22 at 10:59 pm to DefensorFortis
Boom!! You said it better than me…the most famous negligent discharge on YouTube is the guy quick drawing a 1911 (has a safety and hammer) and screaming “I just effing shot myself!!!” Practice makes perfect and again triggers don’t pull themselves.
YouTube link to video:
LINK
YouTube link to video:
LINK
Posted on 6/28/22 at 7:52 am to LEASTBAY
sig P290 is a good option for that as well. DA/SA with a flush hammer. Nice mass but not too heavy or too big for CC.
Posted on 6/28/22 at 8:12 am to TideHater
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MR920 is an excellent firearm. Basically a Glock 19 on steroids. Hold out more money and get the War Poet edition.
I think the CR 920 combat or elite is probably what I'm going to go with.
Posted on 6/30/22 at 9:17 pm to ElDawgHawg
Headed tomorrow to buy the Cr920 combat. Went back and forth between several and all the reviews out there kept pointing me to this gun.
Posted on 7/1/22 at 6:58 am to Pauvetibete
quote:It's not a matter of "me doing me." I'm trying to explain to you what the law says, and what a jury will decide, if you shoot a non-threat in Louisiana (or any other jurisdiction with which I am familiar). You should have been taught this in your CCW class - assuming you took one.
You can do you, but if I draw, I feel like myself or someone else is going to die if I don't.
You'd be wise to delete your post-- just in case you ever do feel compelled to shoot someone. A prosecutor will have a field day with what you wrote.
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