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Posted on 2/18/19 at 10:57 am to LSUperior
Like you said, the boards were wet. When they dry, they tend to shrink, sometimes twist, sometimes start checking and splitting.
I don't care what type real lumber you buy, it's almost always going to vary in length. This is why when building, you always measure each board prior to using it.
Sheet goods are another animal, they are usually very uniform from sheet to sheet.
But you go out and buy 2x4's, 2x12'x and any dimension between and the boards will vary in length.
I don't care what type real lumber you buy, it's almost always going to vary in length. This is why when building, you always measure each board prior to using it.
Sheet goods are another animal, they are usually very uniform from sheet to sheet.
But you go out and buy 2x4's, 2x12'x and any dimension between and the boards will vary in length.
Posted on 2/18/19 at 11:09 am to lnomm34
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I worked at a lumber yard during summers while I was in undergrad. Can confirm this statement. As soon as a bundle of material is unbanded, the material which is near the top starts to bow. When idiots free up others and move them from the tightly-packed stacks in the unit by breaking the strips holding rows together, they are just creating more fricked up boards. I hated dealing with the folks looking for two 2x4s and sifting through 50 or 60 to find two that were marginally 'straighter' to their eye than the others.
Next time you go to your fast food place of choice, I hope you’re starving and get lukewarm fries
Posted on 2/18/19 at 11:10 am to gumbo2176
quote:watch out old man is gonna talk shite then get offended when you talk shite back.
Like you said, the boards were wet. When they dry, they tend to shrink, sometimes twist, sometimes start checking and splitting.
I don't care what type real lumber you buy, it's almost always going to vary in length. This is why when building, you always measure each board prior to using it.
Sheet goods are another animal, they are usually very uniform from sheet to sheet.
But you go out and buy 2x4's, 2x12'x and any dimension between and the boards will vary in length.
Posted on 2/18/19 at 11:17 am to LSUperior
8’ stock is typically 96 1/4. Unless you’re getting a specified (inches) length, then 8’ lumber is going to be stock from their supplier, they don’t have some kid on minimum wage in the back that can’t read a tape measure.
That said, even trim saws are going to produce pieces that don’t always cut to exact specs. The reason being often times there isn’t an inside saw blade against the “fence.” A board can move slightly enough to throw it off an 1/8”. Obviously each piece produced between 2 blades will be exact spec. I worked at a reman facility for a few years. There’s a widely accepted +/- 1/8” tolerance in that industry. That said, if someone asked for 96” boards then we were taking that out of 16’ lumber and cutting it to 96”
That said, even trim saws are going to produce pieces that don’t always cut to exact specs. The reason being often times there isn’t an inside saw blade against the “fence.” A board can move slightly enough to throw it off an 1/8”. Obviously each piece produced between 2 blades will be exact spec. I worked at a reman facility for a few years. There’s a widely accepted +/- 1/8” tolerance in that industry. That said, if someone asked for 96” boards then we were taking that out of 16’ lumber and cutting it to 96”
Posted on 2/18/19 at 11:41 am to LSUperior
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Why...because I wanted and expected to buy some straight boards.
because you expect a natural product to be absolutely perfect
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Do you work at Lowe's?
negative
Posted on 2/18/19 at 12:03 pm to LSUperior
I skip Lowe’s for their shitty wood and go to Home Depot for less shitty wood. My son and I picked for 25 mins to get about a dozen straight untreated 2x8 and 2x10 boards without ragged edges and huge knotholes.
When we moved over to treated lumber, every 8 foot 4x4 we got was at least 3/4 inches longer. Perhaps they do this to make up for the kerf of your saw if you are cutting it several times.
When I get home I usuallt place treated lumber in my basement and set heavier items on top and turn them once a day to keep them straight as they dry some.
When we moved over to treated lumber, every 8 foot 4x4 we got was at least 3/4 inches longer. Perhaps they do this to make up for the kerf of your saw if you are cutting it several times.
When I get home I usuallt place treated lumber in my basement and set heavier items on top and turn them once a day to keep them straight as they dry some.
Posted on 2/18/19 at 12:50 pm to tigerinthebueche
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I worked at a lumber yard during summers while I was in undergrad. Can confirm this statement.
"well the world needs ditch-diggers too, son"
Look, I knew every August I was getting out of that place. So I worked my arse off, worked every bit of OT I could and put a ton of effort into doing a good job every day. All for around $5.50/hour.
The other employees there were making roughly the same amount of money, but that was their livelihood. They weren't going back to LSU in the Fall for school.
I grew up with very little. But I valued education and hard work. And I'm blessed beyond my wildest dreams now. I am happy to report that I am not digging ditches today.
Posted on 2/18/19 at 12:50 pm to LSUperior
Home Hardware Center in Vidalia helped me pick out the good, straight 2x6's every time I went by for new deck boards. very helpful guys.
Posted on 2/18/19 at 12:51 pm to Mr. Hangover
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Next time you go to your fast food place of choice, I hope you’re starving and get lukewarm fries
I don't eat fast food.
Posted on 2/18/19 at 12:57 pm to LSUperior
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Y'all sound like some cry baby millenials
The irony here is thick. You started a thread to complain about how dirt cheap lumber isn’t perfectly square or cut to your standards. Either pay by the board foot at a reputable lumber yard and have them square and plane it for you or quit bitching and creating a pain in the arse for the next person who has to come deal with the wobbly clusterfrick you’ve left on the rack.
This post was edited on 2/18/19 at 1:08 pm
Posted on 2/18/19 at 12:59 pm to TheDrunkenTigah
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TheDrunkenTigah
This dude gets it.
Posted on 2/18/19 at 1:08 pm to Yewkindewit
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When I get home I usuallt place treated lumber in my basement and set heavier items on top and turn them once a day to keep them straight as they dry some.
About 10 years ago I had a customer that wanted me to build a heavy duty arbor for a huge wisteria plant. It had grown and destroyed her first arbor, pulling it apart as it grew.
Long story short, I bought 4 x 6 x 10 posts for the corners and other dimensional lumber in the 2 x 8, 2 x 6, 2 x 4 and 1 x 4 sizes to frame it all in and build a 4 ft. long swing to hang from it so she could sit under it.
I brought that lumber home and put it in my shop, spaced it, used 1 x 1 sticks to give each board air space as I stacked it. For the next week + that pile of lumber would drop enough of the crap used to treat it in enough quantity to form puddles under the wood.
The wood you get from big box stores and most lumber yards has no time to air dry before it is bought. The only place locally to buy dried treated wood that I know of is Gueydan Lumber on Airline Hwy. at Central Ave.
Posted on 2/18/19 at 1:43 pm to LSUperior
ya, the automated machines that cut lumber depend on them to rest against an edge for trimming and they dont always touch so you get some randoms mixed in.
i find the edges are often very rough and beat up, maybe even chipped so i plan to have to recut them so i have straight even uniform edges.
the treatment wets the boards so they warp from uneven drying but if you wet the boards they lay flat so you can assemble your deck and then it dries straight when it dries.
but there always seems to be one or two boards that insist on twisting or curling and must be replaced after it gets wet and dries a few times so i plan for that as well
i find the edges are often very rough and beat up, maybe even chipped so i plan to have to recut them so i have straight even uniform edges.
the treatment wets the boards so they warp from uneven drying but if you wet the boards they lay flat so you can assemble your deck and then it dries straight when it dries.
but there always seems to be one or two boards that insist on twisting or curling and must be replaced after it gets wet and dries a few times so i plan for that as well
Posted on 2/18/19 at 2:06 pm to LSUperior
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throw off your square
What is this "square" you refer to? I think I read about it in a construction history book once.
Posted on 2/18/19 at 2:12 pm to LSUperior
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The only other place near me (Lafayette) is Stine's.
Doug Ashy been in Lafayette longer than Lowes or Home Depot.
quote:You'll probably get the same song and dance at Doug Ashy, though you may not get to go through them (not really sure). They all say the excessive handling of the lumber will cause some of the issues that people complain about. I don't think that it really has a great impact TBH.
Stine's didn't want me picking out my own boards or digging through the stack. They wanted me to basically take which boards they gave me.
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But honestly, they're lumber isn't that much better
This is true. There have been for quite some time issues in the pine lumber and general lumber industries regarding quality and consistency of boards. Any store specific issue is not typically where the lumber comes from, the stores get it from generally the same places. The issues are, in no particular order:
1. The grade of lumber available for purchase.
2. Storage of the lumber once they have (moisture control and consistency thereof)
3. Handling of the lumber once they have
4. The amount of stock they are willing to cull to insure they have quality stock for the customer.
Posted on 2/19/19 at 7:06 am to redneck
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because you expect a natural product to be absolutely perfect
There's a wide gulf between "absolutely perfect" and the pretzel-shaped bullshite you find at HD and Lowe's.
Posted on 2/19/19 at 7:10 am to Teague
This thread took a curve faster than lumber that just got unbanded.
:Dadum:
I'll show myself out.
:Dadum:
I'll show myself out.
Posted on 2/19/19 at 7:36 am to mdomingue
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Doug Ashy been in Lafayette longer than Lowes or Home Depot.
Use them. Never had a problem buying from them and they let me pick thru for what I wanted.
On a side note. Framing lumber these days suck big time.
Mills will NOT saw up any trees bigger then 20" anymore. In fact they look for logs that are in the 12" to 16" size. Big reason one sees so many knots. I had to go buy some studs at HD. I went thru a easy 100+ to pick out 20. For me, I would of rejected about half of them if I sawed them up on my sawmill. By the way, I did have a stack of 2x4's, but they were still to green to use.
This log was close to 32".
Not a single knot in the bunch.
Posted on 2/19/19 at 8:09 am to lnomm34
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I am happy to report that I am not digging ditches today.
oh I wasn't trying to pick on you. Just read your post and Judge Smells immediately popped into my mind making that comment.
Glad for your success.
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