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Board’s opinion on a HST vs shuttle transmission in a tractor

Posted on 7/14/20 at 11:57 am
Posted by Jack Daniel
In the bottle
Member since Feb 2013
25490 posts
Posted on 7/14/20 at 11:57 am
I found a tractor I’m interested in but it has a HST transmission. I have operated tractors my entire life with standard gear shifts and shuttle, but never a HST.

Guys that used HST, thoughts? The hydraulic pump will steal some engine hp from the PTO, but is it noticeable?
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
66763 posts
Posted on 7/14/20 at 12:05 pm to
I'm still on the fence about them. Having an infinite speed range is awesome, HST is super easy to operate, as far as I know they are extremely reliable. They're also safer IMO, no way for a limb to come up and jam the clutch linkage.

I still like a clutch and sticks. Its age old stuff that works great and lasts forever. I guess it depends on how you'll use the tractor.

Eta: SUBMOA is the man to talk to, he has tons of experience with both. I've only had limited seat time on compact hydrostatic tractors.
This post was edited on 7/14/20 at 12:06 pm
Posted by bayoudude
Member since Dec 2007
24958 posts
Posted on 7/14/20 at 12:12 pm to
HST makes loader work quick and easy. I wouldn’t own anything other than an hst in a compact/mid sized tractor

I own a kubota L4701 4x4 hst fwiw
This post was edited on 7/14/20 at 12:14 pm
Posted by Bow08tie
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2011
4224 posts
Posted on 7/14/20 at 12:14 pm to
Depends on how you will use the tractor and how discipline are you at maintenance
For use in really dusty applications or use where foliage can restrict cooling ability...shuttle would be better
Posted by EveryoneGetsATrophy
Member since Nov 2017
2907 posts
Posted on 7/14/20 at 12:20 pm to
quote:

For use in really dusty applications or use where foliage can restrict cooling ability


So anyone that plants food plots.
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
36791 posts
Posted on 7/14/20 at 12:22 pm to
are you gonna have a front end loader and be doing a lot of work with it? If so, hell yeah get the HST. If all you're gonna do is plow and cut, go with the gear shift.


I have gear shift and wish I had the HST
Posted by WillFerrellisking
Member since Jun 2019
700 posts
Posted on 7/14/20 at 12:25 pm to
The HST sucks when driving tractor long distances or bush hogging/discing long runs. However I believe there is a cruise control you can add to some tractors to eliminate that issue. Other than that I love my lil John Deere 3038E.
Posted by Da Hammer
Folsom
Member since May 2008
5761 posts
Posted on 7/14/20 at 12:25 pm to
I have two tractors with HST and one with a clutch. No debate the HST is absolutely the way to go. You may give up a HP or two for it but it's totally worth it. No question it's what I would buy especially on 70hp and smaller.
Posted by Jack Daniel
In the bottle
Member since Feb 2013
25490 posts
Posted on 7/14/20 at 12:39 pm to
quote:

For use in really dusty applications

As in disking dirt or clipping tall grass?
Posted by Chris4x4gill2
North Alabama
Member since Nov 2008
3092 posts
Posted on 7/14/20 at 12:43 pm to
Our JD has cruise with the HST
Posted by southern686
Narnia
Member since Nov 2015
883 posts
Posted on 7/14/20 at 1:40 pm to
We have had both.
In my opinion in comes down to primary use and personal preference.

For lighter work that requires a lot of maneuverability HST all day long. For heavier work like tillage, bush hogging, pulling heavy loads, etc. I will take a geared trans.
Posted by Churchill
Member since Apr 2009
497 posts
Posted on 7/14/20 at 5:39 pm to
I will never go back to a clutch. The HST is the way to go, and I bush hog quite a bit.
Posted by hollowpoint
Texas
Member since Sep 2019
1039 posts
Posted on 7/14/20 at 6:20 pm to
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This post was edited on 10/30/20 at 10:25 am
Posted by rlp
Shreveport
Member since Sep 2005
650 posts
Posted on 7/14/20 at 7:01 pm to
quote:

are you gonna have a front end loader and be doing a lot of work with it? If so, hell yeah get the HST. If all you're gonna do is plow and cut, go with the gear shift.


This is the right answer
Posted by subMOA
Komatipoort
Member since Jan 2010
1716 posts
Posted on 7/14/20 at 7:15 pm to
Submoa- at your service!

Major brand hydros are now as reliable and almost as efficient as mechanical transmissions.

Here’s the cool part- when the clutch is going out on a 10 year old mechanical transmission, the HST is still going strong.

Plus- the convenience for loader work can’t be beat!

In the end- many guys have moved to CVT and IVT transmissions on tractors in the 500+ hp range- some of those components are similar to what you find in a small compact HST. Those big transmissions go 14,000 plus hours.
Posted by SpencerRob
Pass Christian, MS
Member since May 2008
1141 posts
Posted on 7/14/20 at 8:00 pm to
The key factor is what you are going to use it for. If you are going to primarily use the loader, the added cost and lower reliability of HST is worth it. If your primary use is anything but the front end loader, then HST isn’t worth the added cost.
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