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re: Best accurate low recoil, low tracking deer rifle and caliber for wife

Posted on 5/29/22 at 9:23 pm to
Posted by Tight 10
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Posted on 5/29/22 at 9:23 pm to
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Posted by Capt ST
High Plains
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 5/29/22 at 9:52 pm to
7-08, daughter has dropped several double digit bucks in their tracks with the low recoil rounds. But as soon as I get my hands on some high power rounds she’s switching.
Posted by TexasHand
Mississippi
Member since Sep 2013
1361 posts
Posted on 5/29/22 at 10:09 pm to
Bahaha lose deer with a .243? I’ve seen a truck load of deer lost from every popular caliber…. Bullet selection is key (100 grains and something that will retain some weight), practice and manage shot length and she will be just fine. Teaching these knuckle draggers that a bad shot is bad shot no matter the caliber is almost impossible. BUT .308, 7mm08, 270, 257 Roberts and so on are great calibers that will effectively kill deer just the same.
This post was edited on 5/29/22 at 10:11 pm
Posted by popig
Member since Nov 2014
263 posts
Posted on 5/29/22 at 10:20 pm to
The wife has a Kimber 7mm08 and loves it . She has killed 6 deer in the last 4 years. Bought her a 350 legend single shot (for primitive weapon season) last year. She has not had a shot at a deer with the 350 so far, but loves the 350. the 350 kicks even less than the 08. If you are shooting 150 yards or less the 350 legend is the way to go - check out the ballistics and reviews . Good hunting & good luck!
Posted by jgthunt
Walker
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 5/29/22 at 10:44 pm to
6.5 grendel
Posted by Pockets
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
439 posts
Posted on 5/30/22 at 12:10 am to
My wife doesn't hunt but is very supportive of me and our daughters love of hunting. I decided on 7mm08 for them for low recoil and the ability to move up to elk size game.

For budget i'd look at Savage Axis then maybe a Ruger American with a nice scope. But you can't beat the quality and how good the Weatherby Camilla shoots.
Posted by SpookeyTiger
Williamsburg, MO
Member since Jan 2012
3607 posts
Posted on 5/30/22 at 6:13 am to
Ruger American or Savage Axis in .243
Posted by Koolazzkat
Behind the Tupelo gum tree
Member since May 2021
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Posted on 5/30/22 at 6:45 am to
7.62x39 with 154 gr soft points. Kills deer and pigs out to 200 yards with exit holes and a cream puff to shoot. Very accurate also if you get it in a bolt action. Good luck.
Posted by artompkins
Orange Beach, Al
Member since May 2010
6288 posts
Posted on 5/30/22 at 7:38 am to
My two rifles I hunt with the most are both Christensen Arms Mesas and both are fantastic. One is in 6.5CM and the other is 308. Both are very accurate and excellent rifles. If you don't like the brand, so do and some don't, I would look at the Browning Hells Canyon Speed. I have that in a 6.5PRC.




This post was edited on 5/30/22 at 7:39 am
Posted by Stitches
Member since Oct 2019
1242 posts
Posted on 5/30/22 at 7:43 am to
I've killed a pile of deer with my .243 and 100g Core-Lokt. Never had one run further than 50 yards. I currently shoot Federal Fusions out of it, because that's what I was able to stockpile during ammo shortages the past couple years.

ETA: I track deer for the general public with my dogs. I keep data on every track. The most common cartridges are 30-06 and 6.5CM. It's almost always a combination of someone shooting further than they're comfortable with, or taking a shot at a running deer, and bad placement.

Archery tracks are almost always shoulder shots or high shots through the backstrap.

ETA Part 2: By bad shot placement, I'm referring to chest shots and neck shots. You would be shocked at how many of those deer don't die.
This post was edited on 5/30/22 at 9:03 am
Posted by ecb
Member since Jul 2010
10093 posts
Posted on 5/30/22 at 7:54 am to
The idea that bigger bullets make up for poor shot placement is ridiculous baw
Posted by RoIITide
Member since Dec 2010
987 posts
Posted on 5/30/22 at 8:28 am to
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Emphasis on low recoil and drop dead impact


Recoil, 7mm-08 would be fine. Drop dead impact, forget about factoring this in caliber selection. I imagine there are some who never had one get away after what seemed to be a good shot, but I have. Also found them more than 30 yards with good blood trails. Find somebody who has a FB account and see if you can find a list of folks who track with dogs. I was surprised to see how many do it in Alabama. Once you get a list - buy the 6.5 Creedmoor.

J/k…I primarily use the 6.5 cm now and love it.


quote:

Price of gun isn’t an issue if she will use it.


Do not buy a low end gun. I use a couple of Thompson Center compass’ in 6.5 and .308. They are tack drivers that are great for us who just want to get the job done and don’t mind banging it around a little. I would put the Ruger American and the Savage Axis in the same category as mine. They are extremely accurate and handle well.

But…go get that woman a nice high end rifle with wood furniture that you BOTH like. If she doesn’t like it much or stops going later on…guess who just got a nice rifle to use?

Might be worth keeping an eye on federalpremium.com to help you see what calibers are more available. Just looked and they don’t have any for 7mm-08. I never look for 7mm-08 so it may normally be in stock…but they usually have .243, 6.5, .270, 308 in a decent selection of bullet style and grains.



Posted by Ol boy
Member since Oct 2018
3972 posts
Posted on 5/30/22 at 8:33 am to
One thing that really hasn’t been mentioned in this thread is shot placement and type of bullet to shoot.
A lot of folks like my self grew up shooting behind the shoulder trying to minimize meat damage, if you teach her to shoot mid/high shoulder most modern bullets will be bang flops. Also if you pick a bonded or monolithic bullet you will wreck a lot of stuff and more than likely get an exit which often times leads to a good blood trail.
Most folks in the south piney woods would say a 100yard blood trail is a more effective cartridge bullet combo than a 35yd death run with no blood.
Posted by Deereman9009a
Prairieville
Member since May 2018
297 posts
Posted on 5/30/22 at 8:35 am to
This!! .243 in the hands of experienced hunter will stack them up! Not the choice for a new shooter! .308, 7/08 all day!
Posted by TexasHand
Mississippi
Member since Sep 2013
1361 posts
Posted on 5/30/22 at 8:35 am to
Yep, I get downvoted into oblivion every time I say that but it’s the truth. A .243 will effectively kill whitetail in the majority of situations we all hunt in. Now if you’re gonna be taking 300 yard pokes accross cut overs or high lines, obviously my caliber selection would change. Not necessarily for bullet size or weight but for the horsepower to get effective energy/bullet expansion in the animal at that distance. People who say the .243 will cause you to lose deer more often either don’t understand bullet selection, don’t practice (would make poor shots with any caliber) or cant let a deer walk if it’s too far. There’s a reason the .243 has been around as long as it has….. low recoil and effective killing of deer sized and smaller game. Hell, there’s a pile of elk killed every year with that caliber. How? controlling distance and quality bullets.
Posted by Koolazzkat
Behind the Tupelo gum tree
Member since May 2021
3037 posts
Posted on 5/30/22 at 8:48 am to
Cutover hunting requires a blood trail. I still have nightmares about some night time tracking through 3 year old cutovers.
Posted by TexasHand
Mississippi
Member since Sep 2013
1361 posts
Posted on 5/30/22 at 8:50 am to
It happens every year at my camp. We almost always call a dog.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
26924 posts
Posted on 5/30/22 at 9:07 am to
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and will drop a deer within 30 yrds of shot point


Any decent caliber will do that if you’re willing to wait for a good shot. If you’re going to shoot at a deer 300 yards away as he’s crossing a field the larger calibers just give you a bigger error margin.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 5/30/22 at 9:55 am to
quote:

Now if you’re gonna be taking 300 yard pokes accross cut overs or high lines, obviously my caliber selection would change.


Why???
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 5/30/22 at 10:05 am to
quote:

idea that bigger bullets make up for poor shot placement is ridiculous baw


No it doesn't "make up" for it, but it does give you more margin for error.

I dont have any problem with anybody hunting with anything legal to use. What I do not like is when people act like a .243 gives you the exaxt same capability as a .30-06 or a bigger magnum. That isn't the case. One gives you coast to coast penetration on a whitetail at any angle and the other does not.

If it doesn't bother you to pass on shots because they aren't good, than thats fine. I dont get to hunt a whole lot and it bothers me. If the only shot I have on a buck I want is straight away at 200 yards, I want to be able to confidently take it.
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