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Posted on 9/12/21 at 2:40 pm to armsdealer
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it is more of a job.
quote:Man, have I got some good news for you!
armsdealer
Posted on 9/12/21 at 3:13 pm to ItsBernie
“All of the reloading books are from the mid to late 70's.”
civiltiger07 is correct on both counts.
If one of those manuals is a Lyman then you are good to go for reloading instructions. The steps for reloading have not change.
As for data the Hodgdon’s site is good and will get you up to date data.
civiltiger07 is correct on both counts.
If one of those manuals is a Lyman then you are good to go for reloading instructions. The steps for reloading have not change.
As for data the Hodgdon’s site is good and will get you up to date data.
Posted on 9/12/21 at 6:26 pm to btrcj
You guys obviously don't shoot .44 Mag ... $50 for a box of 50 is NUTS!
I can load reload them for > $10/box.
I can load reload them for > $10/box.
Posted on 9/12/21 at 6:42 pm to dakarx
45 colt is the same way. Cheap as frick to reload and expensive as frick to buy.
Posted on 9/12/21 at 7:18 pm to ItsBernie
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What is a good new manual to buy?
I've liked every handloading manual I've looked at.
Having said that, if I could have only one, it'd prob be Hornady. As others mentioned, there's lots of good load data online from the major manufacturers (Nosler, Hodgdon and Sierra come to mind). I REALLY like the Sierra handloading app. 
Be careful of online load data from individuals. 
Posted on 9/12/21 at 7:29 pm to dakarx
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You guys obviously don't shoot .44 Mag ... $50 for a box of 50 is NUTS!
Meh, hush up poor my Desert Eagle is chambered in $2 bills...
Posted on 9/12/21 at 8:13 pm to TigerOnThe Hill
Thanks. It is a little intimidating just going through everything to figure it all out. I am going to build a bench to set it all up then take my time to get started.
Thanks for the suggestions.
Thanks for the suggestions.
Posted on 9/12/21 at 11:04 pm to ItsBernie
Well, the good news is you have access to all kinds of info that I didn't have 35 years ago when I got started.
Posted on 9/12/21 at 11:22 pm to TheOcean
You would regularly have to shoot thousands of reloading to pay off.
But reloading is fun and you can buy enough supplies to guarantee your favorite rounds are never discontinued.
But reloading is fun and you can buy enough supplies to guarantee your favorite rounds are never discontinued.
Posted on 9/13/21 at 3:18 am to Eli Goldfinger
Most of the benefits, as stated earlier, depend on the caliber. Even popular ones like 38 special and 357 mag can be expensive and hard to find during good times.
Unless you're a competition shooter, 9mm are the most readily available and cheap during regular times and I won't fool with them. But to me, 40sw and 10mm are much more expensive during good times along with 357s and more cost effective to reload.
I shoot to stay proficient.
Unless you're a competition shooter, 9mm are the most readily available and cheap during regular times and I won't fool with them. But to me, 40sw and 10mm are much more expensive during good times along with 357s and more cost effective to reload.
I shoot to stay proficient.
Posted on 9/13/21 at 5:10 am to btrcj
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one of those manuals is a Lyman then you are good to go for reloading instructions. The steps for reloading have not change.
As for data the Hodgdon’s site is good and will get you up to date data.
The steps haven't changed, but the powders and projectiles are vastly different now than 30+ yrs ago.
Buy the Lee 2nd Edition, 2021 update for about $35. Best book on the market. Buy hardcopy rather than rely on internet.
As for reloading savings, go look at the price of factory hunting rounds right now. If you can even find them, Accubond and Partition Trophy rounds, even in the standards like 243, 308, 30-06, 270, etc are like $3+ per round. It's insane.
300 Mag?? For the really good stuff, You're looking at $120 for a 20 Rd box. . Hope you don't have to zero your rifle with a new scope from scratch... Cause you ain't gonna have enough shells left to even hunt with.
If you already own the equipment and don't count brass, you can still load most standard hunting rounds for $1 or less.
Yes... It's still worth it, especially for high end hunting and match loads.
Posted on 9/13/21 at 7:13 am to ItsBernie
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Thanks. It is a little intimidating just going through everything to figure it all out. I am going to build a bench to set it all up then take my time to get started.
Thanks for the suggestions.
Taking your time is the correct way to go. Ask questions.
After a while you may want to start casting your own bullets. That opens an additional level to the hobby. Honestly I enjoy reloading/casting as much as shooting. Go figure.
Posted on 9/13/21 at 8:03 am to btrcj
I know that components are hard to come by, but the price of ammo is still outrageous.
$75 for a box of 20 rounds of 143 gr 6.5 Creedmore is beyond ridiculous.
I’m glad that I’ve been stockpiling components for years.
$75 for a box of 20 rounds of 143 gr 6.5 Creedmore is beyond ridiculous.
I’m glad that I’ve been stockpiling components for years.
Posted on 9/13/21 at 12:22 pm to ItsBernie
I really enjoy reloading and all the experimenting that goes into precision rifle reloading.
a fraction of a grain or the depth of bullet seating can make a large difference in accuracy. It's an really neat and fun process.
ETA:
2 things I'd recommend if you plan on loading for rifles:
Take copious amounts of notes and keep them.
Buy a really good micrometer.
You should take notes on pistol bullets as well, but rifle notes are essential.
a fraction of a grain or the depth of bullet seating can make a large difference in accuracy. It's an really neat and fun process.
ETA:
2 things I'd recommend if you plan on loading for rifles:
Take copious amounts of notes and keep them.
Buy a really good micrometer.
You should take notes on pistol bullets as well, but rifle notes are essential.
This post was edited on 9/13/21 at 12:28 pm
Posted on 9/14/21 at 6:53 am to TheOcean
Is it chealer?
If you have a bunch of powder, primers, brass and bullets left ovee from 5 -10 years ago them yes, it is significantly cheaper. If you are buying all of those components new today, then you won’t save much. Also, if your time is important and you factor that in, then no savings whatsoever.
If you reload to get away from the wife then absolutely, it is worth reloading.
Reloading is relaxing to me and since we have a room setup in the basement for reloading, I can do as much or as little as I want and come back to it later. Do most of my reloading in the winter and take my time. My daughter used to reload with me, she loved popping out the old primers and dumping the tube when it was full so it was good time spent with her.
Right now is a rough time to get started in reloading and some stuff you can’t find, even if you have the funds to buy it.
As others have stated, yes, a press will load all of those calibers if you buy the separate dies.
If you have a bunch of powder, primers, brass and bullets left ovee from 5 -10 years ago them yes, it is significantly cheaper. If you are buying all of those components new today, then you won’t save much. Also, if your time is important and you factor that in, then no savings whatsoever.
If you reload to get away from the wife then absolutely, it is worth reloading.
Reloading is relaxing to me and since we have a room setup in the basement for reloading, I can do as much or as little as I want and come back to it later. Do most of my reloading in the winter and take my time. My daughter used to reload with me, she loved popping out the old primers and dumping the tube when it was full so it was good time spent with her.
Right now is a rough time to get started in reloading and some stuff you can’t find, even if you have the funds to buy it.
As others have stated, yes, a press will load all of those calibers if you buy the separate dies.
Posted on 9/14/21 at 8:37 am to bbvdd
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really good micromete
What’s a really good micrometer? I think I want to upgrade mine.
Posted on 9/14/21 at 9:33 am to Success
I have a Mitutoyo cd-6" asx that measures down to 5/10000 (i think that's the correct number)
Anything Starrett will be great as well.
I like having the digital readout.
Another thing that is I think pretty essential are a hornady bullet comparator kit (mine is actually the Sinclair brand from brownells) and a shoulder bump gauge.
Anything Starrett will be great as well.
I like having the digital readout.
Another thing that is I think pretty essential are a hornady bullet comparator kit (mine is actually the Sinclair brand from brownells) and a shoulder bump gauge.
This post was edited on 9/14/21 at 9:53 am
Posted on 9/14/21 at 4:03 pm to bbvdd
So I unboxed everything today to see what exactly I have and what I don't have. The only thing that I can not find is a tumbler/brass cleaner. Any recommendations?
All of the equipment is RCBS. I also have all the dies of what I shoot as he did the reloading years ago. I did find his notebook with details of all the different loads he was using.
Next question, all powder was stored in ammo cans as well as the primers. Is there any concern with them going bad? Everything has the date he bought it written on top. All of the powder was bought between 1995-2001.
I also found several reloading manuals, Nosler #2, Lyman 45 edition, Hornady vol 2, speer vol 2, and Game Loads and Practical Ballistics by Bob Hagel. Should I also buy a more recent manual?
All of the equipment is RCBS. I also have all the dies of what I shoot as he did the reloading years ago. I did find his notebook with details of all the different loads he was using.
Next question, all powder was stored in ammo cans as well as the primers. Is there any concern with them going bad? Everything has the date he bought it written on top. All of the powder was bought between 1995-2001.
I also found several reloading manuals, Nosler #2, Lyman 45 edition, Hornady vol 2, speer vol 2, and Game Loads and Practical Ballistics by Bob Hagel. Should I also buy a more recent manual?
Posted on 9/14/21 at 4:20 pm to ItsBernie
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tumbler/brass cleaner. Any recommendations?
I started with a sonic cleaner, then went to a hornady dry tumbler, and now I have a Frankfort stainless steel wet tumbler. If I had to do it all over again I would have went straight to the wet tumbler. Wet tumbling is not even in the same ball park as dry tumbling. It's a little more up front cost, but the pins last forever unlike the dry media.
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all powder was stored in ammo cans as well as the primers. Is there any concern with them going bad?
Depends on where it was stored. If it was stored in a climate controlled area then you should be fine. If it was exposed to any humidity then you will have problems with the powder.
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Should I also buy a more recent manual?
It would never hurt to have more manuals. Especially the most up to date manual with all the new powders/projectiles.
This post was edited on 9/14/21 at 4:23 pm
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