re: 6.5 Creed Is Not a Super Cartridge

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I have not, but would like to

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I have a Odin Works 6mm ARC barrel. Absolutely love it.

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I already have a 6.5 Grendel on the AR15 platform

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I also have a 6.5 Grendel upper. I built a second upper and use the same lower and BCG for both uppers.

I have Hornady Black and Hornady Match factory ammo that both shoot to under MOA.

The only reloading I have done for it so far is some ladder test with bullet powder combinations. I know you aren't supposed look at the group when doing ladder test, but when you have ten rounds that have powder charges that range from 28.1gr to 29gr and the group is less than 1" it is hard not to be intrigued by what a consistent powder charge will do.

I loaded up my first rounds to try out yesterday. 105gr Berger VLD with 28.5gr of CFE 223 that is going to get around 2500fps.

Also I have the Odin Works Atlas Comp on the barrel as well and the recoil is very minimal. Noticeably less than 6.5 Grendel and I'm thinking that is because of the comp.

I have not been able to get my 6.5 Grendel to group any where close to the ARC yet but I'm thinking that probably has more to do with the PSA barrel.

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Good friend of mines 7yr old killed a 220+lb tensas buck with a 7mm-08 last week. How did he do that with a crappy caliber and these grown arse men aren’t doing it ??

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My kids shoot a 7mm-08. 140gr fusions. They've killed a shitpile of deer with them (they also shoot deer through the ribs that would die from nearly any rifle).

I like their rifle so much I take it a lot. Killed 2 bucks totaling 323" with it the past 2 years.

It's not the arrow, but the indian.

Ever used FMJBT in your Grendel? I bought some this morning because it was all they had.

I have not. Have mostly shot Hornady SST and Black through it. I do have some FMJBT though.

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I don’t think there was a post in the thread about the well respected and proven 7mm-08 in a negative way.

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Hard to say anything negative about the perfect deer hunting round

7mm-08
140 gr (9.1 g) Nosler Partition 2,800 ft/s (850 m/s)

6.5 CreedmorelazerfromZues
143 gr (9 g) Hornady ELD-X 2,710 ft/s (830 m/s)

As FBI reports on pistol caliber find this probably has more to do with shoot placement than caliber. Just continue hating the round though.

It’s always fun to read gun caliber questions and opinions and to realize that there is as much loyalty and misunderstandings about gun performance as there is about Ford vs. Chevy vs Dodge. This is why there are as many calibers as there are now and gun/bullet manufacturers like to fan the flames of hype because that’s what sells guns and bullets.

But, there are laws of science that actually dictate and determine how a projectile will perform, regardless of the gun name or caliber. Basically, if you cause a hunk of metal to travel at a certain speed, that speed combined with the weight of the projectile (bullet) causes the projectile to have a certain amount of energy, that energy once it impacts an animal or object, causes kinetic impact shock which results in terminal energy.
To me terminal energy is ultimately what kills an animal or person. Terminal energy is also affected by what the bullet does when it makes contact with the animal, if the bullet is hard enough to pass through tissue without expanding or exploding, then the terminal effect is lessened.
If the bullet expands and gets larger or explodes and comes apart, this increases the terminal effect because the kinetic energy (speed plus bullet weight) is all absorbed by the body tissue. Too rapid of expansion or explosion can have a negative affect on terminal energy also, this is all why bullet manufacturers work hard to develop the right mixture of jacket and core hardness and expansion capabilities, so that a bullet propelled at a certain speed can have an instantaneous terminal effect when it hits its target.

So realistically, looking at ..243, .257, .263, .270, .284, .308 caliber bullets, these make up the most popular hunting caliber shells. Any of these calibers that can propel a bullet fast enough to cause 1000-1200 ft lbs of energy should be equally capable of causing terminal impact on deer, hogs, 1500-1700 ft lbs for elk or whatever.
And most all current caliber rifles in these bullet diameters can produce those energies. Those are just the laws of science associated with speed, weight and energy, whether a hunter likes that or not, whether it makes his preferred caliber look good or bad, doesn’t change the science of what the bullets are limited to. So since virtually all popular calibers are capable of producing sufficient terminal affect, it really comes down to bullet placement and bullet construction as to how the gun we shoot will perform. You have to be able to place a bullet in a vital organ area and that bullet has to be able to deposit as much terminal energy as it is capable of to effectively drop an animal where it stands or in a very short distance.
So pick any caliber you think is sexy and learn what bullets perform best in that gun, shot it enough to be accurate with it and make a good shot when you have an opportunity at the animal you are hunting, the gun is more capable than the shooter in most cases.

What is that?