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re: 6.5 Creed Is Not a Super Cartridge

Posted on 1/17/21 at 1:44 pm to
Posted by oleyeller
Vols, Bitch
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 1/17/21 at 1:44 pm to
quote:

What you meant was shitty bullets


No its a shitty round for hunting. Gimmick round made for paper. I bought in and tried it. Gave it due time. Wouldnt reccommend even for kids. Its shite
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
29857 posts
Posted on 1/17/21 at 1:47 pm to
quote:

No its a shitty round for hunting. Gimmick round made for paper. I bought in and tried it. Gave it due time. Wouldnt reccommend even for kids. Its shite


Can't believe I'm about to argue for it, but what about it ballistically could possibly be shitty for hunting? 260 is fine. 6.5x55 is fine. 7mm08 is fine.

Shoot a more appropriate bullet. Don't buy anything that says match or precision on it.
This post was edited on 1/17/21 at 1:52 pm
Posted by Got Blaze
Youngsville
Member since Dec 2013
9912 posts
Posted on 1/17/21 at 1:48 pm to
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Googled 6.5 creedmoor


Hollywood is partly responsible for the increased hype and demand of the 6.5CM. The cartridge was created in 2007. Very few people knew about, or shot this cartridge except long range PRS shooters. The 6.5CM parent case is the 30TC which was a complete failure. In 2014, American Sniper was released and every Tom, Dick, and Harry wanted to be the next Chris Kyle. The “black rifle” craze shifted to the “sniper rifle” infatuation. Factory and custom rifle manufacturers jumped on the bandwagon hyping “you too can shoot looooong range”. Hornady increased ammo production and began to market the shite out of the Creedmoor (magazine articles, YouTube videos, social media). The public bought in and rifle/ammo sales went through the roof.

As previously mentioned, the 6.5CM does the exact same thing as the 260 Rem (6.5x308), 6.5x55S, and King of LR / PRS shooting - 6.5x47 Lapua. If it was such an incredible deer, pig, elk hunting cartridge, then why did it take 8 years before it became so popular with the public ? Hornady owes a lot of gratitude to Clint Eastwood and the sheeple who bought into the marketing hype.

I respect the CM cartridge but my 6.5x47Lapua does the exact same thing with less powder.
Posted by lv2bowhntAU
God's Country,a.k.a N. Alabama
Member since Jan 2011
3360 posts
Posted on 1/17/21 at 1:51 pm to
Do you really think a 140gr bullet moving around 2600-2800 cares what brass its coming out of? 6.5 Swede has killed damn near as many animals worldwide(including moose) as any caliber out there but yet you think its not worthy of a 150lb deer
Several on here have tried to explain where your mistake was and it wasn't in the caliber choice. we can lead you to water but we can't make you drink. Start sending 140gr Accubonds out of that rifle and you'll start piling deer up like cord wood just like any other cartridge
Posted by brightside878
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2009
1638 posts
Posted on 1/17/21 at 1:56 pm to
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its a shitty round for hunting. Gimmick round made for paper. I bought in and tried it. Gave it due time. Wouldnt reccommend even for kids. Its shite


Ok coach

There’s at least 3 other people telling you otherwise that I’d consider more knowledgeable than myself. What exactly makes it shitty for hunting? Be specific with us.
Posted by Duckhammer_77
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Member since Nov 2016
3020 posts
Posted on 1/17/21 at 2:03 pm to
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its brought the old 6.5x55 into the spotlight with it.

I was itching for a new deer rifle to reload for and was reading about choices in the 6.5-.264 calibers. Just didnt see the point of the CM after doing the research. Bought a CZ 6.5 Swede, loading 140gr accubonds for it. I love that gun!
This post was edited on 1/17/21 at 2:08 pm
Posted by oleyeller
Vols, Bitch
Member since Oct 2012
32600 posts
Posted on 1/17/21 at 2:13 pm to
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There’s at least 3 other people telling you otherwise that I’d consider more knowledgeable than myself. What exactly makes it shitty for hunting? Be specific with us.


Theres at least tons more telling you its shite. There is a reason its called the cripplemore. Id be more than happy to sell mine to you if you would like.

Posted by brightside878
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2009
1638 posts
Posted on 1/17/21 at 2:29 pm to
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Theres at least tons more telling you its shite. There is a reason its called the cripplemore. Id be more than happy to sell mine to you if you would like.


You exposed yourself as a dumbass when you told us it was too fast to expand. People on here took the time to explain to you in technical terms the error in your ways.

That said, explain to us why it’s a shitty caliber for hunting. We’ve all got time.
Posted by brightside878
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2009
1638 posts
Posted on 1/17/21 at 2:31 pm to
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you really think a 140gr bullet moving around 2600-2800 cares what brass its coming out of? 6.5 Swede has killed damn near as many animals worldwide(including moose) as any caliber out there but yet you think its not worthy of a 150lb deer Several on here have tried to explain where your mistake was and it wasn't in the caliber choice. we can lead you to water but we can't make you drink. Start sending 140gr Accubonds out of that rifle and you'll start piling deer up like cord wood just like any other cartridge


I should have just copy and pasted this.

Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
71109 posts
Posted on 1/17/21 at 2:50 pm to
If youre handloading the swede can be loaded to comfortably outrun the creedmoor with the same bullets.
Posted by oleyeller
Vols, Bitch
Member since Oct 2012
32600 posts
Posted on 1/17/21 at 2:52 pm to
You exposed yourself as a dumbass defending the shitty round.
Posted by saintsfan1977
Arkansas, from Cajun country
Member since Jun 2010
9971 posts
Posted on 1/17/21 at 3:26 pm to
quote:

Bought a CZ 6.5 Swede, loading 140gr accubonds for it. I love that gun!



The 6.5x55 outperforms the cm. Ammo manufacturers load down the 6.5x55 just like the 7mm rem mag.

Both of those cartridges can be loaded hotter and still be safe.
Posted by brightside878
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2009
1638 posts
Posted on 1/17/21 at 3:36 pm to
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You exposed yourself as a dumbass defending the shitty round.


Still waiting for your reasoning why.

Nothing like getting owned then start arguing like a 16 year old. You proved you didn’t know wtf you’re talking about when you called it too hot. You had the opportunity to learn something today, but you insisted staying ignorant.
Posted by barry
Location, Location, Location
Member since Aug 2006
51335 posts
Posted on 1/17/21 at 3:48 pm to
I have been out of the rifle game for a while and started searching new rifles a few weeks ago and I was like what the frick is 6.5 Creedmore
Posted by bbvdd
Memphis, TN
Member since Jun 2009
28168 posts
Posted on 1/17/21 at 4:00 pm to
quote:

The 6.5x55 outperforms the cm. Ammo manufacturers load down the 6.5x55 just like the 7mm rem mag.



I’ve pushed 140gr to around 2920 out of my 6.5 cm using rl-16 without pressure signs.

I realize anyone could do the same with any caliber.
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
29857 posts
Posted on 1/17/21 at 4:35 pm to
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Theres at least tons more telling you its shite. There is a reason its called the cripplemore. Id be more than happy to sell mine to you if you would like.

That's because the general public baw knows less about bullet design than they do caliber abilities.

It's not just a you problem. It's people go to Academy and stare at sniper marketed ammo and thinks it makes them a better shooter and Hunter. When in fact it does the opposite.

Any mainstream cartridge from .243 to .338 win mag (that's for downshift) is perfectly capable for deer hunting with a good bullet and a decent shot.

If it's a shitty hunting round there has to be a ballistic measure that explains why? What is it?
Posted by Duckhammer_77
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Member since Nov 2016
3020 posts
Posted on 1/17/21 at 4:40 pm to
quote:

can be loaded hotter and still be safe.

I think the imported euro ammo brands are hotter.
Posted by saintsfan1977
Arkansas, from Cajun country
Member since Jun 2010
9971 posts
Posted on 1/17/21 at 5:10 pm to
quote:

think the imported euro ammo brands are hotter.


They are. We are still using load data like people are shooting them out of old Swedish Mausers.

Posted by 308
the backwoods of Mississippi
Member since Sep 2020
3103 posts
Posted on 1/17/21 at 5:14 pm to
.308 Winchester.....the thinking man's '06.




And as for the 6.5 family, the Swede 6.5x55 will still be going strong when the others have been all but forgotten.

This post was edited on 1/17/21 at 5:17 pm
Posted by Raz4back
Member since Mar 2011
4019 posts
Posted on 1/17/21 at 5:24 pm to
quote:

6.5. cripplemore


I will guarantee more deer are crippled by people that are scared shitless of the recoil from their magnums than are crippled by Creedmoors.

If you are crippling deer with a Creedmoor you are either making poor choices in ammo or you can’t shoot for shite
This post was edited on 1/17/21 at 5:27 pm
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