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re: 6.5 Creed Is Not a Super Cartridge
Posted on 1/17/21 at 12:44 pm to texag7
Posted on 1/17/21 at 12:44 pm to texag7
As a 6.5 user for 2 deer seasons, i will not use it over other rounds for deer anymore. I killed some deer with it, and lost some deer with it. Its a fun round to shoot, but i feel like for deer its better in certain situations than others. On the deer 100yds and in, i found trouble.. i think the round was just too fast for complete expansion. The deer i lost i would find a drop here, drop there, and couldnt find. The deer i found, it was little to no blood. Never had a single deer drop on spot. I felt it did much better past 200yds, only deer i had drop was 200-300yds. I know this can happen with any round, but to this day with my 308 i have not had a deer run past 30yds. Shot 2 bucks this year dead on the spot.
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Posted on 1/17/21 at 12:47 pm to 257WBY
I’ll stick with my .243 and neck shots.
Posted on 1/17/21 at 12:47 pm to The Torch
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I'd never heard of this cartridge until this year and have no idea what it is comparable to.
I would use similar size grain load and go with a .270 if you're looking solely at ballistics. Throw in action and ballistic coefficient, they are different animals.
6.5 cm was designed for long distance shooting, not necessarily hunting. Under 400 yards it isn't going to stand out vs it's peers. But, less recoil and a short action is attractive to many.
Posted on 1/17/21 at 12:59 pm to oleyeller
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think the round was just too fast for complete expansion
Are you stupid or something?
Posted on 1/17/21 at 1:07 pm to upgrade
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never said the creedmore was a bad cartridge. It will kill game animals just fine. But it is marketed as some revolutionary new technological wonder that made every other cartridge obsolete. It flat out doesn't do anything BETTER in a hunting situation than cartridges that already existed before it.
Don’t disagree with any of that. Last rifle I bought I was down to .308, 7mm 08, and 6.5 cm. Ended up going with the Creed bc it recoiled less than a .308, and the factory ammo offering is way better than the 7mm 08.
Posted on 1/17/21 at 1:07 pm to brightside878
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Are you stupid or something?
No, im someone who actually used this shitty round for 2 years
Posted on 1/17/21 at 1:08 pm to oleyeller
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On the deer 100yds and in, i found trouble.. i think the round was just too fast for complete expansion. The deer i lost i would find a drop here, drop there, and couldnt find. The deer i found, it was little to no blood.
Pretty simply, you were using the wrong bullets.
The 6.5 cm is not an extraordinarily fast cartridge.
Posted on 1/17/21 at 1:13 pm to bbvdd
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Pretty simply, you were using the wrong bullets.
Mayb
Hornady eldx on 2 deer, barnes on 3... recovered 2 from barnes and 1 with eldx. Ones recovered shot went right behind shoulder, exit behin other shoulder. Size of pinhole on each side. Little to no blood on any.
Posted on 1/17/21 at 1:18 pm to oleyeller
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No, im someone who actually used this shitty round for 2 years
Eh, I wouldn't buy it for deer hunting, but possibly for long range shooting if I got into that. For deer, its meh as its not designed necessarily for hunting.
Long range shooting seems to be hip of late, so you'll probably see quite a few new rounds and developments.
Posted on 1/17/21 at 1:19 pm to Purple Spoon
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It’s the Florida Georgia Line of hunting calibers.
LMFAO
Give me my .30-06 any day and I'm good. Might not be able to hit a dime at 6,200 yards, but I'm gonna put meat on the table and I won't have the need to brag about my ole' .30-06.
Posted on 1/17/21 at 1:20 pm to Jcrew
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People can hate all they want on the 6.5. I own one and love it. I'm older and wanted something fun with less recoil
I dont think anyone is hating on it. But fact is, you could've gone with a 7mm-08 and had just as good a caliber, if not better for deer hunting.
Unless you're planning on long range shooting, it simply holds no advantages.
That's the point of the thread, people think it's better, but it's not.
Posted on 1/17/21 at 1:23 pm to SportTiger1
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Unless you're planning on long range shooting, it simply holds no advantages
Neither does the 7mm-08
Posted on 1/17/21 at 1:27 pm to oleyeller
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No, im someone who actually used this shitty round for 2 years
Me too with 6 kills. None of which went more than 30 yards. 140 gr accubonds
What you meant was shitty bullets
Eta: it’s not a fast round
This post was edited on 1/17/21 at 1:28 pm
Posted on 1/17/21 at 1:29 pm to bbvdd
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Neither does the 7mm-08
Of course not. But it also doesn't have the craze or recent wild reputation of the 6.5.
Posted on 1/17/21 at 1:32 pm to oleyeller
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eldx
Found your problem.
Designed to expand better at long distances. Loses 50% of weight retention at closer ranges.
Hard pass for me
Posted on 1/17/21 at 1:35 pm to oleyeller
Pretty simple explanation for your examples with the round. Poor bullet choice for the shots you're taking. Barnes are tailor made for pushing them fast and shooting shoulders. they're a really tough bullet. Thats why you didn't get expansion on a vitals shot. Choose the right bullet for the shots you intend to be taking. Your examples are 100% bullet selection and little to nothing to do with the caliber. Also the Creedmoor isn't even close to a fast round. I really have no clue where folks are getting that crap from. I don't even own a Creedmoor anymore as I have always preferred a 7mm-08 but the 6.5 gets a whole lot of undeserved hate through no fault of its own
Posted on 1/17/21 at 1:35 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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6.5 cm was designed for long distance shooting
This. People complaining about it not performing in a use other that what it was developed for are creating an issue.
Posted on 1/17/21 at 1:36 pm to brightside878
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140 gr accubonds
Still the reigning greatest of all time in hunting bullets in my book
Posted on 1/17/21 at 1:37 pm to SportTiger1
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Has a new cartridge ever taken off so quickly as the 6.5?
Possibly the .243? The way the story goes, way back when, hunters started to realize that you didn't have to shoot a 30 caliber bullet to kill deer. The .244 Rem was a fairly popular smaller caliber round at the time. But the .244 didn't have a tight enough twist to stabilize the heavier Spitzer bullets that they wanted to shoot for deer size animals. In fact, the gun got a very bad rep for being inaccurate once people started trying the heavier bullets in the production rifle. Winchester seized the opportunity to grab that market and came out with the .243 Win. The production rifle had a tighter twist and would accurately shoot the heavier bullets. From what I've read it became very popular, very quickly.
Remington knew they would never resurrect the .244 due to the bad rep. So they discontinued the .244 Rem and came out with the 6mm Rem. Same cartridge, tighter twist.
Posted on 1/17/21 at 1:37 pm to SportTiger1
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I dont think anyone is hating on it. But fact is, you could've gone with a 7mm-08 and had just as good a caliber, if not better for deer hunting
I recently bought a 6.5. I haven’t killed an animal with it yet but I like shooting it and the rifle (Bergara Highlander) is super accurate. I wanted a 7mm-08, but of the three rifles I really liked, only one was offered in 7mm-08 and I couldn’t find one anywhere. I also noticed it was a lot easier to find 6.5 ammo than 7mm-08. It isn’t my only deer rifle, but I’m excited to kill a deer with it. I was a bit ignorant to the craze surrounding it when I bought it. I have killed deer with shotguns, rifles chambered from .243 to .45-70, and more with a bow than any of the above. Considering the bullet offerings for the 6.5, I have no concerns whatsoever about its ability to kill a deer inside of 200 yards with a well-placed shot.
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