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re: 2ed deer in Mississippi tests positive for CWD
Posted on 10/26/18 at 9:31 pm to GREENHEAD22
Posted on 10/26/18 at 9:31 pm to GREENHEAD22
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when they were younger one donated blood to another who was in a wreck and then all three had been cleaning deer together for decades so you can have blood transmission there as well.
The transfusion makes it more likely to be a coincidence but I don't see cleaning deer together being a likely human to human transmission source. Assuming you are thinking cleaning deer leads to cuts which might mix bloods.
Anyway that is all very concerning considering that the chances of CJD is one in a million. Like you said, not a coincidence.
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Posted on 10/26/18 at 9:35 pm to DownSouthJukin
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Do you mean like Code Blue and Tinks? Urune and estrous?
abso-freaking-lutly
There are quite a few folks that think urine based products are helping cause the spread.
Posted on 10/26/18 at 9:46 pm to BRgetthenet
Damn - I just replenished the freezer with deer meat.
If I grind everything into ground venison and fully cook it, will that prevent it?
If fky cooked does the trick then I am cooking the hell out of it.
If I grind everything into ground venison and fully cook it, will that prevent it?
If fky cooked does the trick then I am cooking the hell out of it.
Posted on 10/26/18 at 10:02 pm to cave canem
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abso-freaking-lutly
There are quite a few folks that think urine based products are helping cause the spread.
Have they been tested and proven to contain prions?
I just found this from Code Blue: LINK
That makes me feel better since those are the only scents I use.
This post was edited on 10/26/18 at 10:06 pm
Posted on 10/26/18 at 10:16 pm to KillTheGophers
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If I grind everything into ground venison and fully cook it, will that prevent it?
Nope. Can't "cook it out"
Posted on 10/26/18 at 10:24 pm to Chuker
If CWD jumps to humans, it would probably also jump to cattle, etc.
If you have mass killing of deer, the carcasses will still have CWD and will spread it.
If you have mass killing of deer, the carcasses will still have CWD and will spread it.
Posted on 10/26/18 at 10:24 pm to KillTheGophers
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and fully cook it, will that prevent it?
Yes. If you cook it to an internal temp of 1,600F.
Incineration it is the only way to destroy it.
Posted on 10/26/18 at 10:55 pm to 257WBY
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If CWD jumps to humans, it would probably also jump to cattle, etc.
Mad Cow IS the the bovine (cow) form of CWD.
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CWD belongs to a family of diseases called prion diseases or transmissible spongiform encephalopathies (TSEs). Other TSEs include bovine spongiform encephalopathy in cattle, scrapie in sheep and goats, and Creutzfeldt-Jacob disease and other human prion diseases in people, including variant Creutzfeldt-Jacob disease (the human form of “mad cow disease”) in people. The infection is believed to be caused by abnormal proteins called prions, which are thought to cause damage to other normal prion proteins that can be found in tissues throughout the body but most often in the brain and spinal cord, leading to brain damage and development of prion diseases.
Posted on 10/27/18 at 11:09 am to Chuker
This makes me sick.
We love venison chili, venison spaghetti sauce, venison sausage balls, etc.
We love venison chili, venison spaghetti sauce, venison sausage balls, etc.
Posted on 10/27/18 at 11:21 am to KillTheGophers
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We love venison chili, venison spaghetti sauce, venison sausage balls, etc.
I do as well and will likely continue to enjoy them, the question is do I feed it to my two year old grandson?
There are some things a man just could not live with.
Posted on 11/7/18 at 8:13 am to cave canem
Another tidbit from a friend who hunts Davis:
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The goal is 30 bucks from our club. If we do not reach 30 bucks does are also acceptable. The reason they want bucks is due to the fact bucks seem to have a 2-3x higher CWD infection rate than does. This is based on data from other states with larger outbreaks.
Posted on 11/7/18 at 9:04 am to AlxTgr
Yea it hits mature bucks hard.
Posted on 11/7/18 at 11:10 am to GREENHEAD22
I hunt in MS - is there any way to test the meat before you consume it? Where would you bring it for testing?
Posted on 11/7/18 at 11:28 am to bamaswallows
It's not going to show up in meat unless you contaminated it during processing.
Posted on 11/8/18 at 5:59 am to AlxTgr
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It's not going to show up in meat unless you contaminated it during processing.
interesting...is the only way to contaminate it by cutting the spinal cord? Or is any bone cutting risking contamination?
Posted on 11/8/18 at 7:11 am to bamaswallows
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interesting...is the only way to contaminate it by cutting the spinal cord? Or is any bone cutting risking contamination
We really don’t know, one study showing that monkeys or similar given large amounts of meat from a positive animal may contract the disease, but there is much more that we do not understand than what we do, anyway, currently the only reliable way to identify a deer with CWD is to sample the brain stem and a lymph node, if that tests positive then the deer is assumed contaminated, but no current test for the meat
This post was edited on 11/8/18 at 9:18 am
Posted on 11/8/18 at 8:38 am to bamaswallows
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nteresting...is the only way to contaminate it by cutting the spinal cord? Or is any bone cutting risking contamination?
Lots of info here.
Some of the statements:
Avoid handling or cutting through the skull or spinal cord. Use separate dedicated knives, saws and cutting boards to butcher deer, particularly if you cut through the spinal cord or skull (such as when removing antlers).
Avoid handling brain or spinal tissues or fluids, saliva and mouth parts and wash hands thoroughly with soap and water afterward if such handling occurred.
The brain, spinal cord and other nervous tissue, spleen, pancreas, eyes, tonsils and lymph nodes of deer, elk and moose may have CWD prions, and additional organs (liver, kidney, heart and salivary glands) may pose a risk of infection for a number of diseases. Normal field dressing will eliminate most of these organs and tissues.
Posted on 11/8/18 at 8:40 am to Chuker
quote:Coincidentally this is how my wife prefers her steak to be "cooked".
Yes. If you cook it to an internal temp of 1,600F.
This CWD business is scary stuff.
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