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re: 2ed deer in Mississippi tests positive for CWD
Posted on 10/21/18 at 10:22 am to 257WBY
Posted on 10/21/18 at 10:22 am to 257WBY
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No greater deer density than the Texas Hill Country, which is nearly the size of Mississippi.
Also, I stand corrected on Texas having CWD. But it’s still very small, especially when you get to the deer pens and feeders. More of it in far West Texas. Go figure.
What planet have you been on, TX has had over 50 confirmed CWD cases thus far and the rate is climbing.
You are also off on your population densities.
Knowledge and a better understanding on prion disease is what will stop this if it can be done, folks spreading false info to save "mah corn piles" are not helping the issue.
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Posted on 10/21/18 at 10:37 am to cave canem
Just ban feeding nation wide
Posted on 10/21/18 at 10:51 am to cave canem
If you don’t understand that the Hill Country is the highest density in the US, you’ve never been to the Hill Country.
Posted on 10/22/18 at 7:03 am to Tigerpaw123
Feeding ban coming soon.
Posted on 10/22/18 at 8:03 am to 257WBY
quote:
Hill Country is the highest density in the US,
You don't read good. He said was talking about states. Not areas.
Posted on 10/22/18 at 8:35 am to 257WBY
both have very high deer densities
which makes it even stranger that people NEED to put out corn in these areas
deer everywhere
which makes it even stranger that people NEED to put out corn in these areas
deer everywhere
Posted on 10/22/18 at 8:50 am to Ron Cheramie
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which makes it even stranger that people NEED to put out corn in these areas
In north ms where I hunt there are a lot of folks who hunt corn in pine plantations. We hunt feed trees for the most part but when the acorns aren't dropping it is tempting to put some corn out. We have been hunting the same land for over 10 years so we know how the deer move, we can usually kill a doe no problem.
Big bucks in a pressured area aren't going to hit a corn pile during the day.
Posted on 10/22/18 at 2:52 pm to celltech1981
If the thought is that it travels by saliva, wouldn't the piles of corn/rice bran on the ground, gravity feeders and mineral licks be the largest problem. I wonder if banning them but allowing feeders that scatter corn be better?
But I guess you are going to implement bans, then you might as well do it right.
But I guess you are going to implement bans, then you might as well do it right.
Posted on 10/22/18 at 3:07 pm to diehard24
concentrated sources of food that ALL the deer eat out of speeds up the rate of infection for a disease that has a 1-2 year timeline before symptoms show up. Have'nt any of y'all ever watched that Outbreak movie with the little monkey?
Posted on 10/22/18 at 3:19 pm to Duckhammer_77
I don't get it. If it's spread through soil, how would a feeding ban help? Haven't read too much on the issue so this may be an ignorant question.
Posted on 10/22/18 at 3:22 pm to Marciano1
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If it's spread through soil, how would a feeding ban help
Deer concentrate at feeding areas and the disease spreads quicker theoretically.
Posted on 10/22/18 at 3:26 pm to Marciano1
its spread through a protein prion found in deer saliva (and other body fluids). The protein prion can "live" for years on an outdoor exposed surface - heat and rain doesn't "kill it". I'm using quotes because its not a live virus or bacteria, its just an indestructible chemical. Once it gets ingested by a deer, it causes neuro cell mutations that cause the disease.
It takes time for the cell mutations and disease to get so bad that signs are visible. And the whole time, that deer is slobbering all over mineral blocks, feeders, apples, sweet taters, my wife's roses, etc
It takes time for the cell mutations and disease to get so bad that signs are visible. And the whole time, that deer is slobbering all over mineral blocks, feeders, apples, sweet taters, my wife's roses, etc
This post was edited on 10/22/18 at 3:45 pm
Posted on 10/22/18 at 3:31 pm to Tigerpaw123
Good thing they loosened their restrictions on baiting this year.....
Posted on 10/22/18 at 3:31 pm to Duckhammer_77
Has there been any thought to it spreading from an infected animal by a scavenger? A buzzerd perhaps?
Posted on 10/22/18 at 3:33 pm to Shepherd88
quote:
Deer concentrate at feeding areas and the disease spreads quicker theoretically.
quote:
its spread through a protein prion found in deer saliva (and other body fluids). The protein prion can "live" for years on an outdoor exposed surface - heat and rain doesn't "kill it". I'm using quotes because its not a live virus or bacteria, its just an indestructible chemical. Once it gets ingested by a deer, it causes neuro cell mutations that cause the disease. It takes time for the cell mutations and disease to get so bad that signs are visible.
Got it. Thanks
Posted on 10/22/18 at 3:40 pm to Ron Cheramie
People don’t need to feed, fence, or make food plots for deer. The question is are these activities increasing the spread of CWD? Feeders, high fences, and food plots aren’t used much in the Colorado/Wyoming area where all of this was first discovered. Yet, that area has the largest prevelance of CWD. Plenty of things can be outlawed, but will it make a difference?
Posted on 10/22/18 at 3:49 pm to 257WBY
I think all they have to go on is basic epidemiology practices. If you can prevent a concentration of a population, you reduce the speed that it spreads. Buys time to get a handle on it or (hopefully) kill all the hosts in an area that it was found.
Like don't go bobbing for apples at a herpes convention
(credit to highcotton2, even if he is an Auburn fan)
Like don't go bobbing for apples at a herpes convention
(credit to highcotton2, even if he is an Auburn fan)
This post was edited on 10/22/18 at 3:54 pm
Posted on 10/22/18 at 3:53 pm to 257WBY
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are these activities increasing the spread
it seems like common sense that concentrating deer by bait piles would increase it and banning baiting would be the low hanging fruit
it's almost the "perfect" disease
not easily detected
no cure
stays around for a long time
scary stuff
and I am for doing whatever it takes even if it means extreme measures
Posted on 10/22/18 at 3:57 pm to Ron Cheramie
its like all the glitter in your house after your daughter makes a pink unicorn pumpkin for school
Posted on 10/22/18 at 3:58 pm to Duckhammer_77
yes exactly like that
I guess!
I guess!
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