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re: $12,000 Reward for Information Regarding the Whereabouts of an Ivory Billed Woodpecker

Posted on 7/7/21 at 10:27 am to
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
86538 posts
Posted on 7/7/21 at 10:27 am to
A good rail on guy for railing on guy is always welcome.
Posted by Columbia
Land of the Yuppies
Member since Mar 2016
3216 posts
Posted on 7/7/21 at 12:48 pm to
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Not worth it. As soon as I report one, I lose all hunting rights. State/Feds will come in and that will be it....Just going to sit back and just watch them drill the trees around my deer stand, and just let the world wonder......


Let’s say someone on this board did find some on their own private property. Is this a realistic take? I’ve thought the same, but don’t know.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
86538 posts
Posted on 7/7/21 at 1:02 pm to
Hunting, in and of itself, would not be prohibited.

quote:

What is against the law once a
species is listed under the ESA?
It is unlawful to harass or kill as well as
destroy or disturb the habitat of a threatened or
endangered species. This is described as “take”
which means “to harass, harm, pursue, hunt,
shoot, wound, kill, trap, capture, or collect, or
attempt to engage in any such conduct.” The
term “harm” includes significant modification
or degradation to habitat used by the species
during any part of its life cycle.
Posted by EF Hutton
Member since Jan 2018
2366 posts
Posted on 7/18/21 at 8:42 am to
We watched some of the webinar yesterday out of Patterson.

If anything, they create reasonable doubt about it being extinct.

I hope there are some hiding out somewhere.

I read that Ben Lilly killed a bunch in Tensas. And today, the refuge goes and names a bridge in his name.
Posted by Sir Drinksalot
Member since Aug 2005
16857 posts
Posted on 7/18/21 at 10:07 am to
20 years ago we lived off of O’Neal lane in Baton Rouge. Our house backed up to some woods that we would always play in. One day, my brother (13 at the time) came running in the house yelling about a 2 foot woodpecker he saw up in a tree.

We all laughed at him.

Years later he was at a museum or something and read about this woodpecker. He swears it was the same one.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
86538 posts
Posted on 7/18/21 at 1:46 pm to
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they create reasonable doubt about it being extinct.
What was presented that makes you say that?
quote:

I hope there are some hiding out somewhere
Same.
Posted by shell01
Marianna, FL
Member since Jul 2014
806 posts
Posted on 7/18/21 at 4:43 pm to
I want to believe there are still a few out there deep in the woods...
quote:

He swears it was the same one

...but your brother saw a Pileated ;)
Posted by The Last Coco
On the water
Member since Mar 2009
6920 posts
Posted on 7/19/21 at 7:38 am to
quote:

20 years ago we lived off of O’Neal lane in Baton Rouge. Our house backed up to some woods that we would always play in. One day, my brother (13 at the time) came running in the house yelling about a 2 foot woodpecker he saw up in a tree.


Grew up in Woodland Ridge neighborhood and our backyard backed up to BREC forest park property. There's a decent chunk of older hardwoods back there and we played back there all the time growing up. There are pilleated woodpeckers all over in there. It's not far as the crow flies from O'Neal so I'm certain that's what your brother saw.
Posted by Clyde Tipton
Planet Earth
Member since Dec 2007
40594 posts
Posted on 7/19/21 at 11:33 am to
Latest comment on the article in the OP...

quote:

James Ambrose • a month ago
Just seen this beauty this morning 6/15/21 at 8:00am. Location: 1057 Walnut Hill Rd. Leesville, LA 71446. I have never seen this bird before & that is why I was looking on the internet for her. And here I am, and there you go. James & Heidi Ambrose have a blessed & wonderful day.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
86538 posts
Posted on 9/2/21 at 10:12 am to
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I've got no dog in this fight. But I feel comfortable in thinking Matt seemed like a genuine dude trying to do genuine good.

You came down way too harsh on they guy merely for trying to create a discussion and outreach on his passion/job/hobby.

Dude was consistently respectful to everyone in this thread. No need for you to shite on him like that.


Hope you have facebook
Posted by jorconalx
alexandria
Member since Aug 2011
10723 posts
Posted on 9/2/21 at 5:44 pm to
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Hope you have facebook


looks like it got deleted or made private
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
86538 posts
Posted on 9/3/21 at 9:28 am to
Deleted.

Summary. This guy starts a thread complaining that his ebird list was flagged/removed or something because it contained a sighting of Bachman's sparrow. That species hasn't been seen in that area in 20 years or so. Lots of whining. Full explanation from an ebirder that was not flattering. Hilarious read. I seriously would trust my son's id on birds over this guy.
Posted by Ron Cheramie
The Cajun Hedgehog
Member since Aug 2016
5551 posts
Posted on 9/3/21 at 9:47 am to
Some birdwatchers have huge egos and think their sightings should not be questioned and they get mad at the reviewers who are just doing their jobs. One of the first persons to comment on that thread is one of those people. He and his twin brother think white has a vendetta against them but they think the rules don’t apply to them. If you hear or see a rare bird you need photo or at least audio proof. Saying “ just trust me I know what I am talking” about just doesn’t cut it
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
86538 posts
Posted on 9/3/21 at 9:57 am to
I do not even know how the process works. They should do a short video from start to end on the whole thing.
Posted by 308
the backwoods of Mississippi
Member since Sep 2020
3112 posts
Posted on 9/3/21 at 10:23 am to
@IBMatt,

I have long had an interest in the IBWO and have a collection of articles and books, etc. Searched for them quite a bit near the Delta National Forest in MS and other areas in MS and LA. Have one interesting story to tell.

Did you know the late Frank Wiley and his Project Coyote?
This post was edited on 9/3/21 at 10:30 am
Posted by Floating Change Up
Member since Dec 2013
12892 posts
Posted on 9/4/21 at 1:13 am to
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Hope you have facebook


I missed it before it was deleted. But I read a few other posts. Lots of want-a-be veterinarians in that group.
Posted by IvoryBillMatt
Member since Mar 2020
9173 posts
Posted on 9/20/21 at 4:26 pm to
Gauxt, sorry that I have just now returned to the board. Thanks for the encouragement. Working on an excellent sighting report that found its way to us through Tigerdroppings!

As for the Purple Martins, sorry that I didn't have any timely advice for you. Friends of mine in Baton Rouge had success with launching crickets with sling shots.
Posted by MrLSU
Yellowstone, Val d'isere
Member since Jan 2004
29068 posts
Posted on 4/18/22 at 9:28 pm to
Sounds like the reward may be paid out.

The Guardian

Steve Latta, the director of conservation at the National Aviary in Pittsburgh who led the effort, said each member of the team had encounters with the ivory-billed woodpecker and often heard its call, which has been described like hearing a child puff into a tin trumpet.

Latta himself saw the bird fly upwards in front of him, showing the distinctive white edges to its wings. “It flew up at an angle and I watched it for about six to eight seconds, which was fairly long for an ivory-billed woodpecker,” he said. “I was surprised. I was visibly shaking afterwards. You realize you’ve seen something special that very few people had the opportunity to see.”

The size and the markings of the bird captured in the photos is strong evidence that it is not another woodpecker, such as a pileated or red-headed woodpecker, Latta said. “It reinforced to me that, yes, this bird does exist and left me feeling a sense of responsibility to protect it for the future,” he said.
This post was edited on 4/18/22 at 9:29 pm
Posted by Cowboyfan89
Member since Sep 2015
12969 posts
Posted on 4/19/22 at 5:50 am to
All of that, and the 37 page document doesn't have a single clear photo of the bird--just some grainy "enhanced" screenshots from a video.

This is 2021, and they couldn't get a clear photo of this bird. Maybe it is the IBW, but that isn't very convincing.
Posted by Ron Cheramie
The Cajun Hedgehog
Member since Aug 2016
5551 posts
Posted on 4/19/22 at 6:45 am to
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A series of grainy pictures and observations of the bird, which had its last widely accepted sighting in 1944, show that the scrupulously furtive woodpecker is still holding on in the swampy forests of the US south, according to the team’s new research, which is yet to be peer-reviewed.


I hope one day the IBWO is rediscovered and there is a chance it still does exist but this isn’t the rediscovery. When this gets peer reviewed it will get crushed. Some pretty sensational journalism in that article that can mislead someone just skimming the article. There are four photos side by side and the two outer ones come from the study site. The two clear pics are of an imperial and an ivory billed just to show comparison but people will skim that and see an ivory billed and forward it to everyone. The two outer pics are clear as mud. I can almost make out a little white on the wing of the pic in the right which makes it fit pileated perfect

Hope they get something much better than that
because this isn’t it
This post was edited on 4/19/22 at 7:02 am
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