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re: Zelensky willing to end war and concede territory in exchange for NATO membership
Posted on 11/29/24 at 11:29 pm to RaoulDuke504
Posted on 11/29/24 at 11:29 pm to RaoulDuke504
This is desperation by this clown to try and force the West’s hands by claiming the NATO bylaws would have to be applied and they would also have to fight with Ukraine directly.
Instead of him stealing g money left and right and sending his own people to die to enrich himself and help keep the West’s money laundering system in place, why doesn’t he resign and go sit in a hole of shite where he belongs.
Instead of him stealing g money left and right and sending his own people to die to enrich himself and help keep the West’s money laundering system in place, why doesn’t he resign and go sit in a hole of shite where he belongs.
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Posted on 11/29/24 at 11:33 pm to Jcorye1
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Does anyone actually think Russia going all out doesn't roll Ukraine?
Yes. You are seeing something that was suspected to occur in WW3. Guided anti tank missiles able to be carried by infantry changes the game. Defensively, you no longer need to meet force with force to bleed them out. You can fire from a concealed position in ambush, hop in a jeep, and restablish down the line.
This post was edited on 11/29/24 at 11:34 pm
Posted on 11/29/24 at 11:34 pm to Bushmaster
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Posted on 11/29/24 at 11:35 pm to Bunk Moreland
Its probably the CIA that controls or influences half of the articals that the New York Times print. If they are admitting to having 12 CIA bases in Ukraine, then you can rest assure that its disinformation. Otherwise, it wouldn't be printed. You evidently don't understand what a controlled media is.
Posted on 11/29/24 at 11:36 pm to sta4ever
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Posted on 11/29/24 at 11:40 pm to RaoulDuke504
Putin: “best I can do is I keep all the lands I currently hold and you refuse NATO membership in exchange for peace.”
Honestly it’s the best path forward. Ukraine keeps Odessa and the port and people can try to resume normal life.
Honestly it’s the best path forward. Ukraine keeps Odessa and the port and people can try to resume normal life.
Posted on 11/30/24 at 12:18 am to OMLandshark
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You’re a fricking idiot for thinking this is a good thing. We want China and Russia to be distant and on bad terms, not dependent on one another. It’s literally America’s worst foreign policy nightmare. You are a tard of the highest order.
It’s not like they haven’t been allies for a long time lol. The only difference now is that Russia has to sell everything to China at a super low price. China won’t come to Russias aid either. China just loves the very cheap, rich resources they’re getting by being friendly with Russia, while the rest of the world wants nothing to do with Russia. China will be friendly with Russia until they have no more to offer. China will never risk their economy over Moscow.
Posted on 11/30/24 at 1:07 am to Slevin7
quote:Russia also signed a treaty promising not to attack Ukraine after Ukraine handed over its nukes. So the precedent of breaking treaties in place.
Uh…the treaty between Ukraine and Russia said no nato.
Posted on 11/30/24 at 1:17 am to OMLandshark
Russia is going to be a Chinese client in the next 50 years. They already are the junior partner, and China wants that land in Siberia, some of which the Qing once owned, badly. They have a massive population compared to Russia in that region and are ready to expand.
Posted on 11/30/24 at 2:43 am to red sox fan 13
You’re right.
If I’m Russia I nuke that bitch while sending out a message “agreement terminated. Go ahead and join NATO.”
You may retarded.
You think shite works like it does at your fricking **** private school but in reality if you frick around with people who aren’t joking they are going to quite literally “put you in check”.
I’m not a Putin fan. I do know Russia slow rolls this because they care but it’s not that big a deal to them. You believe your own bullshite. The second Russia wants this fight over it’s over.
Nothing besides actual other countries coming to fight and die over this bullshite is going to save Ukraine and no one actually cares. It’s manufactured bullshite.
And yeah we probably have a bunch of virus labs and shady shite over there that our guys “serving America” don’t want us to know about. And it’s probably beneficial to offer that guy Z a chance to launder some money in an effort to postpone us losing that shite.
We are gonna go more broke trying to never discuss our own governments corruption.
Can’t wait.
Maybe I can get nuked in the next month so I never know my leaders are pieces of shite.
I hope most of these people burn in hell.
They invited this shite.
If I’m Russia I nuke that bitch while sending out a message “agreement terminated. Go ahead and join NATO.”
You may retarded.
You think shite works like it does at your fricking **** private school but in reality if you frick around with people who aren’t joking they are going to quite literally “put you in check”.
I’m not a Putin fan. I do know Russia slow rolls this because they care but it’s not that big a deal to them. You believe your own bullshite. The second Russia wants this fight over it’s over.
Nothing besides actual other countries coming to fight and die over this bullshite is going to save Ukraine and no one actually cares. It’s manufactured bullshite.
And yeah we probably have a bunch of virus labs and shady shite over there that our guys “serving America” don’t want us to know about. And it’s probably beneficial to offer that guy Z a chance to launder some money in an effort to postpone us losing that shite.
We are gonna go more broke trying to never discuss our own governments corruption.
Can’t wait.
Maybe I can get nuked in the next month so I never know my leaders are pieces of shite.
I hope most of these people burn in hell.
They invited this shite.
Posted on 11/30/24 at 7:54 am to Slevin7
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I’m not a Putin fan. I do know Russia slow rolls this because they care but it’s not that big a deal to them. You believe your own bullshite. The second Russia wants this fight over it’s over.
Well I’d figure they’d want it over prior to the deaths of hundreds of thousands of Russians and having to rely on North Korea of all people for weapons and additional personnel
Posted on 11/30/24 at 7:58 am to RaoulDuke504
No!
Posted on 11/30/24 at 8:53 am to sta4ever
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Posted on 11/30/24 at 9:15 am to RaoulDuke504
OK, I don't know the Ukraine constitution, but shouldn't that be a decision made by the representative part of government? Or is he THE government?
That doesn't make sense for that many lives to be lost for ????Nato membership.
That doesn't make sense for that many lives to be lost for ????Nato membership.
Posted on 11/30/24 at 9:17 am to dukke v
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I can understand his wanting to do this for his people, but Putin will end this when he is ready.
That little frickin midget doesnt give two shits about Ukrainians.
Posted on 11/30/24 at 9:25 am to SoFla Tideroller
I am, I think access to the black sea is important frick zelinski
Posted on 11/30/24 at 9:34 am to real turf fan
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OK, I don't know the Ukraine constitution
Posted on 11/30/24 at 9:34 am to RaoulDuke504
This is what’s going to happen if we agree to this:
They get into NATO then spend the next several years provoking Russia along the new border to goad them into action to invoke Article 5 so they can take back the territory they gave up.
They get into NATO then spend the next several years provoking Russia along the new border to goad them into action to invoke Article 5 so they can take back the territory they gave up.
Posted on 11/30/24 at 9:36 am to Slevin7
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The second Russia wants this fight over it’s over.
Didn't they want this fight over within 3 days? It's been nearly 1000 days at this point lmao.
Posted on 11/30/24 at 9:37 am to JohnnyKilroy
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Didn't they want this fight over within 3 days? It's been nearly 1000 days at this point lmao.
How are you Ukraine bros holding out on the front lines?
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