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Your thoughts on the Post Office situation?

Posted on 8/4/20 at 11:23 am
Posted by CatsGoneWild
Pigeon forge, Tennessee
Member since Jan 2008
15206 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 11:23 am
Will they be defunded? Can they be defunded? Can the US make it without a USPS? Why does Trump hate them so much? Isn't there something in the constitution that says the postal service will always be around/that it's not meant to make money?

I for one hope we never lose it. My wife is a carrier and she's always slammed. Obviously people still get mail. The only thing I would change is the Amazon shipping price
Posted by redneck hippie
Oklahoma
Member since Dec 2008
6473 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 11:24 am to
I don't know but every time the postman hands me anything I turn around and chuck it in the trash.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
148031 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 11:24 am to
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My wife is a carrier and she's always slammed.



You have no idea how much she's slammed
Posted by Jp1LSU
Fiji
Member since Oct 2005
2542 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 11:26 am to
Even if the process started today it wouldn’t get done until after the new President is elected.
Posted by Tigers0891
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2017
7197 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 11:26 am to
So you don't want your wife to lose her job ? Fair enough and I can empathize with that. But the post office is a shite hole and has been needing a revamping for a long time coming.

Also their unions endorsement of Biden is illegal so they deserve shite for that.

Also, tell your wife that my home does not have a receptionist to leave a package with, it's not blocked by construction, and that there is no gate. They need to come up with better excuses for why my mail wasn't delivered. Maybe because their grandma was having a baby.
Posted by Rouge
Floston Paradise
Member since Oct 2004
138868 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 11:28 am to
USPS is needed

Immediate removal of the insane retirement benefits is also a necessity.
Posted by TigersSEC2010
Warren, Michigan
Member since Jan 2010
38537 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 11:28 am to
quote:

My wife is a carrier and she's always slammed.


Nice.
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 11:29 am to
There’s an adult video about this I think
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
89448 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 11:29 am to
quote:

Even if the process started today it wouldn’t get done until after the new President is elected.



I think even the USPS can get something done in a little over 4 years.
Posted by sweetwaterbilly
Member since Mar 2017
19649 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 11:29 am to
quote:

Will they be defunded? Can they be defunded? Can the US make it without a USPS? Why does Trump hate them so much? Isn't there something in the constitution that says the postal service will always be around/that it's not meant to make money?

I for one hope we never lose it. My wife is a carrier and she's always slammed. Obviously people still get mail. The only thing I would change is the Amazon shipping price


I'm not going to make a broad statement about ALL mail carriers, but the majority of the ones I have ever interacted with are complete morons.

However, that was mostly in Mobile and Baton Rouge. And that's all I'm going to say about that.
Posted by FlyinTiger93
Member since May 2010
3724 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 11:31 am to
Privatize. Has to be one of the most inefficiently running businesses in the world.
Posted by tigerinthebueche
Member since Oct 2010
38242 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 11:31 am to
quote:

Isn't there something in the constitution that says the postal service will always be around/th


Less time posting, more time learning ( The Constitution). And you won’t be so fricking stupid.

Maybe.
Posted by RealityTiger
Geismar, LA
Member since Jan 2010
20543 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 11:31 am to
I don't know about being defunded, but there are major changes that need to happen internally.
Posted by rrboy
USA
Member since Jan 2005
5603 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 11:32 am to
Another affirmation action success story.
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
86572 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 11:37 am to
Philosophically, I’m a privatization guy. But the USPS is a bit different. They are essentially the mail industry’s loss leader. They have to service ( on a daily basis) areas, populations and services that Fedex and UPS have no interest in because there would be no profit in it. My business buys about 15k in postage a year, we rely on the USPS, and we are overall very satisfied with them. We deal with them daily and they do solid work and answer our questions. Of all the problems my business has, the USPS is not one of them. Just giving my own personal experience.
Posted by hikingfan
Member since Jun 2013
1757 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 11:37 am to
quote:

Isn't there something in the constitution that says the postal service will always be around/that it's not meant to make money?

The constitution only applies selectively to Trump voters. For example: The 2nd Ammendment is important for them, but voting rights for everyone don't matter if it means losing the electoral college. In their delusion, they view the USPS as an existential threat to Trump's reelection as mail in voting cannot be suppressed through selective gerrymandering. The Republican party used to be a party of principles at one time, but it no longer is the case under Trump.
Posted by Ghost of Colby
Alberta, overlooking B.C.
Member since Jan 2009
16043 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 11:39 am to
quote:

I'm not going to make a broad statement about ALL mail carriers, but the majority of the ones I have ever interacted with are complete morons.

However, that was mostly in Mobile and Baton Rouge. And that's all I'm going to say about that.


Luckily, the mail carrier for my neighborhood is great. The Karens even love him because he posts and responds on the NextDoor app.
Posted by Zappas Stache
Utility Muffin Research Kitchen
Member since Apr 2009
43570 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 11:39 am to
quote:

Immediate removal of the insane retirement benefits is also a necessity.


The requirement they pre-pay retirement benefits is the biggest problem. I don't think any other governmental agency is required to pre-pay but instead they only pay as people retire.

quote:

Enter the Postal Accountability and Enhancement Act, which was passed by the Republican-controlled Congress and signed into law by President George W. Bush. Up until this point, the post office added to and removed from its retiree pension and healthcare accounts on an ongoing basis, putting money in as needed, based on its current retirees. This model is similar to the way many other companies and corporations fund their own healthcare pensions. This act changed all that. It required the post office to calculate all of its retiree pension and healthcare costs for the next 75 years, including for people it hadn't even hired yet, and put away enough over the next 10 years to cover them.
Posted by hikingfan
Member since Jun 2013
1757 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 11:40 am to
quote:

Less time posting, more time learning ( The Constitution).


Link

Article I, Section 8, Clause 7 of the United States Constitution, known as the Postal Clause or the Postal Power, empowers Congress "To establish Post Offices and Post Roads".
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
61832 posts
Posted on 8/4/20 at 11:40 am to
I don't know, but the mail delivery has been pretty bad around here for the last several months. Some streets get skipped and there are lot's of mistakes made about which mail ends up in who's boxes.

It doesn't help that one of the women who delivers for our area stays on her damn cellphone all day while walking the route.

At a minimum I think most areas should be considering cutting back to a 3 or 4 day delivery schedule.
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