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re: You guys excited about 50 year mortgages?

Posted on 11/12/25 at 8:41 am to
Posted by ronricks
Member since Mar 2021
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Posted on 11/12/25 at 8:41 am to
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hot housing markets with heavy appreciation


Also come with skyrocketing property taxes and insurance etc.

The 50 year 'rates' are also going to be higher than 15 or 30 year rates.

There are a lot of layers to this the low IQ poors aren't thinking about.

Posted by Horsemeat
Truckin' somewhere in the US
Member since Dec 2014
15060 posts
Posted on 11/12/25 at 8:45 am to
Saw a tweet earlier that they're getting rid of the 650 credit score threshold for financing. Save that cash boys, another housing crash is on the horizon.
Posted by TideCPA
Member since Jan 2012
12886 posts
Posted on 11/12/25 at 8:46 am to
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That's probably not true, all things considered

You'll need some luck to come out ahead, specifically

1. Avoiding expensive maintenance
2. Not facing high property taxes
3. Having RE appreciate beyond historical norms
4. Having RE be positively valued when you have to sell
1 is definitely an advantage to renting. 2 is built into the rent payment. 3-4 is the biggest issue; you need to time the market correctly if you want to be able to relocate without issue.

On the flip side, you're able to stabilize your housing cost over the long term and be much better protected from risk associated with nonrenewal of your lease, or huge jumps in rent expense. You can also buy down principal and own the place outright over time.

Puts and takes. It doesn't make sense for everyone, but for someone who is looking to stay put in a certain area for a while absolutely could provide benefits over renting.
This post was edited on 11/12/25 at 8:48 am
Posted by CAD703X
Liberty Island
Member since Jul 2008
90774 posts
Posted on 11/12/25 at 9:16 am to
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You'll need some luck to come out ahead, specifically

1. Avoiding expensive maintenance
2. Not facing high property taxes
3. Having RE appreciate beyond historical norms
4. Having RE be positively valued when you have to sell

Any of those 4 alone could tank the advantage, and I imagine most people will face at least 2/4 of them over a long enough sample.
i guess i dont live in reality because in nashville the property values go up double-digits every year so you have instant-equity almost immediately here.

i bought a house in 2015 for 400k and sold it in 2021 for 1.6.

things havent slowed much since then even w/ the high interest rates.

i get it; this isn't normal for other parts of the country but its priced pretty much all the college grads out of starter homes in this area and sent rents through the roof.
Posted by Dadren
Jawja
Member since Dec 2023
2976 posts
Posted on 11/12/25 at 10:49 am to
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The 50 year 'rates' are also going to be higher than 15 or 30 year rates.

Significantly higher. And nobody seems to be mentioning this.

30 year fixed has about double the rate of 15 year fixed. No sane bank actually wants an asset with a 50 year maturity, so the rate will likely be double the 30 year rate.

Imagine agreeing to pay 12% on a mortgage of, what 400K on average…for 50 years.

It’s a garbage idea for a product and I have no idea why we (collectively, not just the OT) are even discussing this.
This post was edited on 11/12/25 at 10:50 am
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
92291 posts
Posted on 11/12/25 at 10:51 am to
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Imagine agreeing to pay 12% on a mortgage of, what 400K on average…for 50 years.



You think the rate will be 12%

This place never disappoints
Posted by Dadren
Jawja
Member since Dec 2023
2976 posts
Posted on 11/12/25 at 11:03 am to
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You think the rate will be 12%

This place never disappoints

What do you imagine the rate will be and why?
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
31313 posts
Posted on 11/12/25 at 11:32 am to
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i bought a house in 2015 for 400k and sold it in 2021 for 1.6.

things havent slowed much since then even w/ the high interest rates.

Is that same house now worth $4.5MM or so? Because if not, things have slowed way, way the frick down

And yes, this kind of appreciation is staggeringly outside of the norm for the rest of the country, and we shouldn't be setting policy based on extreme edge cases.
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