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re: You get arrested if disrupt a Law Enforcement Operation
Posted on 1/27/26 at 11:35 am to Korkstand
Posted on 1/27/26 at 11:35 am to Korkstand
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IYO is the purpose of the 2nd amendment for us to just keep and bear arms in our own homes and definitely do not load them and carry into a "tense situation" of the government's creation? Are we not supposed to exercise the 1st and 2nd amendments simultaneously? Are they mutually exclusive? If these rights are not intended to be used to disrupt government operations, then what the frick are they for?
You can do whatever you want with them. Just know that there could be consequences to that option going in just like every other situation where you think firearms will solve a problem
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Posted on 1/27/26 at 11:54 am to Purple Spoon
quote:This guy was clearly videoing and then coming to the aid of a woman who was pushed down. The feds made it physical.
So you think that carrying a loaded firearm and physically confronting armed agents is protected by the first and second amendment?
But to answer your question, the 2nd protects the right to *be* armed. What you do with that right matters, as with all of them. It's pretty widely-agreed that the purpose and intent of the 2nd amendment was to prepare for the possibility of the people physically confronting armed government agents.
It looks like we are deciding at what point each of us thinks it's time to exercise that intent. Crazy how the "don't tread on me" folks all seem to be "comply or die" now.
Posted on 1/27/26 at 12:07 pm to Korkstand
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Crazy how the "don't tread on me" folks all seem to be "comply or die" now.
I definitely see the hypocrisy. And I have never said that this guy deserved to die or that this was a “good” shoot. Only that the guy made extremely poor judgement. Kinda like Ashley Babbit did not deserve to die but used extremely poor judgement.
Posted on 1/27/26 at 12:13 pm to WigSplitta22
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You can do whatever you want with them. Just know that there could be consequences to that option going in just like every other situation where you think firearms will solve a problem
Yeah we all know the consequences.
But tell me, Wig Splitta, what should be the consequences for a government that doesn't obey its people? If the feds come to your town and your street with masks and guns and disrupt the lives of you and your neighbors, what will you do?
How can you look at what's going on and then remind a fellow American that his rights have consequences instead of reminding the government that it only exists because we allow it?
Posted on 1/27/26 at 12:13 pm to Korkstand
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It looks like we are deciding at what point each of us thinks it's time to exercise that intent.
Protecting people who have no right to be in our country and have often committed crimes including rape, murder, drug or human trafficking does not get close to the line where we will take up arms against the govt. At least not for a large portion of the country. The radicals out there doing this can certainly do so but they then create a non-zero chance that the most unfortunate outcome will occur. As it did here.
How warped is your brain that you think you're saving or preventing something that is beneficial to this country?
ETA: This is unfortunately another instance of a psycho woman creating a problem that a man pays the price for. Happens in countless bars across the US every weekend. SMH.
This post was edited on 1/27/26 at 12:15 pm
Posted on 1/27/26 at 12:16 pm to Korkstand
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If the feds come to your town and your street with masks and guns and disrupt the lives of you and your neighbors, what will you do?
Let them work to take out the trash. The fact that you wrestle with this situation is telling, but not off brand for you and your ilk.
ICE is not new and they're not doing anything they haven't been doing for YEARS, including under your boy Obama. So maybe it's time to consider the fact that it's you who have lost your minds. Our values have not changed.
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In 2015, President Barack Obama awarded Thomas Homan, then-Executive Associate Director of ICE Enforcement and Removal Operations (ERO), a Presidential Rank Award for Distinguished Service. This award recognized Homan's leadership and effectiveness in immigration enforcement, specifically for managing large-scale deportation operations and achieving extraordinary results.
This post was edited on 1/27/26 at 12:24 pm
Posted on 1/27/26 at 12:25 pm to Purple Spoon
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If she was not obstructing, what was she doing there?
And there we finally have it folks.
It’s so easily justified in some people’s minds because any form of protest or even merely filming is “obstruction.” Distance to officers or what you actually do to them doesn’t matter. You say something on a loudspeaker 100 feet away that hurts their fee-fees, you are “obstructing.”
Posted on 1/27/26 at 12:25 pm to Purple Spoon
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I definitely see the hypocrisy. And I have never said that this guy deserved to die or that this was a “good” shoot. Only that the guy made extremely poor judgement. Kinda like Ashley Babbit did not deserve to die but used extremely poor judgement.
Maybe it was poor judgement, but I have to say that I'd rather we all have the same poor judgement before we normalize the idea of armed federal agents roaming our streets and disrupting our lives.
If enough people have the same poor judgement, and the result is the balance of power shifts back to the people, it will be viewed as good judgement.
If we are going to blame avoidable deaths on poor judgement, at some point we need to recognize that the way this administration is handling illegal immigration is extremely poor judgement.
Posted on 1/27/26 at 12:28 pm to Korkstand
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If the feds come to your town and your street with masks and guns and disrupt the lives of you and your neighbors, what will you do?
Not trying to throw shite and all that but it wasn’t that long ago that law enforcement was telling me that I could not use a boat ramp, or go to a state park, or a bar or a football game, or keep my job unless I injected a foreign unproven substance into my body.
If someone wants to point to the conservative “don’t tread on me”contradiction, take a good look in the mirror at your own hypocrisy.
Posted on 1/27/26 at 12:28 pm to Volvagia
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You say something on a loudspeaker 100 feet away that hurts their fee-fees, you are “obstructing.”
Is that what you're seeing when you watch the video of the incident? Being intentionally obtuse does not help you here.
This post was edited on 1/27/26 at 12:29 pm
Posted on 1/27/26 at 12:30 pm to Korkstand
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If we are going to blame avoidable deaths on poor judgement, at some point we need to recognize that the way this administration is handling illegal immigration is extremely poor judgement.
That would require holding this administration accountable
Good luck with that
Posted on 1/27/26 at 12:31 pm to Korkstand
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we need to recognize that the way this administration is handling illegal immigration is extremely poor judgement.
I'd argue this is more at the hands of thew few state/local governing bodies in the areas that we are having issues, than it is the federal side (not saying 100% of blame one way or the other, but lionshare belongs to the states). The federal policies have not changed. We can see that in the states that are cooperating with the established laws and helping the Feds quickly and easily apprehend their targets that have orders of removal. What has changed are the states that have refused to cooperate, especially with their sanctuary cities.
This post was edited on 1/27/26 at 12:32 pm
Posted on 1/27/26 at 12:31 pm to Chucktown_Badger
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Protecting people who have no right to be in our country and have often committed crimes including rape, murder, drug or human trafficking does not get close to the line where we will take up arms against the govt. At least not for a large portion of the country. The radicals out there doing this can certainly do so but they then create a non-zero chance that the most unfortunate outcome will occur. As it did here.
How warped is your brain that you think you're saving or preventing something that is beneficial to this country?
The ends do not always justify the means. How warped is your brain to think these people are protecting rapists and murders rather than protecting their own right to a life free of heavy-handed federal operations?
Posted on 1/27/26 at 12:31 pm to Korkstand
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what should be the consequences for a government that doesn't obey its people?
Which people? The ones that voted for illegal immigration crackdown or those that voted for... what? open borders?
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If the feds come to your town and your street with masks and guns and disrupt the lives of you and your neighbors, what will you do?
Well, depends... am I, or my neighbors doing something illegal?
I don't get upset when the cops pull over a dui, or bust a crack house... it doesn't worry me because I don't drive drunk or smoke crack.
Posted on 1/27/26 at 12:32 pm to Korkstand
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If we are going to blame avoidable deaths on poor judgement, at some point we need to recognize that the way this administration is handling illegal immigration is extremely poor judgement.
Ask yourself these questions:
- Why are the worst outcomes happening in the one place where the largest resistance is occurring?
- How do you specifically suggest we root out and deport criminal illegal aliens? I would guess though that you want them here just like the leadership in states like MN
ICE is currently operating in all 50 states, with zero issues save 1 or 2 states. Stop suggesting that the entire countries lives are being disrupted. It's ridiculous.
Posted on 1/27/26 at 12:33 pm to DoomGuy504
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The board switching to wanting a police state and abolishing the 2nd amendment has been wild. What a lib place now.
We want dangerous people off the street. If you try to wrestle a cop and you are carrying a weapon then I don't think you deserve to die, but you are certainly taking that risk. A full investigation will decide who is right and wrong
Posted on 1/27/26 at 12:35 pm to Korkstand
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How warped is your brain to think these people are protecting rapists and murders rather than protecting their own right to a life free of heavy-handed federal operations?
Wow. So you think these people are out there because they don't like seeing ICE vehicles around their cities, and these people are suddenly "anti big govt"? Ignoring the fact that these people couldn't get governed hard enough during COVID and wanted the govt to put unvaccinated people in camps, turn in their unvaccinated neighbors, and get fired from their jobs for not following govt orders? Those people? You do not have the logical, moral, or constitutional high ground here. Any point you've trotted out does not stand up to any scrutiny or fact whatsoever.
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The ends do not always justify the means
"The means" are working perfectly well in 49 states.
This post was edited on 1/27/26 at 12:37 pm
Posted on 1/27/26 at 12:35 pm to Chucktown_Badger
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- How do you specifically suggest we root out and deport criminal illegal aliens?
Why is it such an urgent manner that we are sending in these poorly trained agents? These people don't have the requisite law enforcement experience to be dealing with these types of situations.
And even after all of this we're barely putting a dent in the total numbers.
The original plan to go after the worst criminals first was the more prudent plan. Then it shifted to "we need to get these numbers up" and that's when you started to see mass public opposition.
We should want to get illegals out of the country. We can also not delude ourselves into thinking that mass round up of peaceful illegals is helping society in the way that you think it is.
Posted on 1/27/26 at 12:37 pm to Korkstand
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How warped is your brain to think these people are protecting rapists and murders rather than protecting their own right to a life free of heavy-handed federal operations?
These "heavy-handed federal operations" only bother citizens that are intent on getting in the fray of it all. The feds aren't targeting them for detention or deportation.
Posted on 1/27/26 at 12:38 pm to Powerman
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These people don't have the requisite law enforcement experience to be dealing with these types of situations.
Serious question...has this been confirmed somewhere? What is your source for making this claim?
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