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re: You get arrested if disrupt a Law Enforcement Operation
Posted on 1/27/26 at 10:03 am to Ingeniero
Posted on 1/27/26 at 10:03 am to Ingeniero
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It started out that way. At the beginning of 2025, 87% of ICE arrests were immigrants with either a prior conviction or a criminal charge pending, according to ICE data obtained by the Deportation Data Project. Only 13% of those arrested at the beginning of 2025 didn’t have either a conviction or a pending charge. But the criminal share of apprehensions has declined as the months have gone on. By October 2025, the percentage of arrested immigrants with a prior conviction or criminal charge had fallen to 55%. Since October, 73% taken into ICE custody had no criminal conviction and only 5% had a violent criminal conviction, according to a Cato Institute review of ICE data.
Deporting criminally violent illegal immigrants is politically popular. Fortunately for the nation and unfortunately for the administration, there simply weren’t as many of them in the country as the administration said there were. Once they were (mostly) gone, the choice was between saying “mission accomplished” to the base while they looked around confused as to why their lives didn’t immediately improve or continuing the deportation push down the line to ensure that there was always an active scapegoat for anything that made the base feel aggrieved. The administration made its choice; now it’s beginning to see the consequences.
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Posted on 1/27/26 at 10:07 am to Joshjrn
stop breaking the law it's that easy
Posted on 1/27/26 at 10:08 am to tigersmanager
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do the crime face the time
On the most basic level this is true. That doesn't make it politically popular though. Think about it like this: the federal government triples the number of IRS agents and starts auditing people for not properly claiming their cash sales or reporting cash tips. They start knocking on the door of your business demanding to see the equipment that you claimed depreciation on to dispute it. Every single business now gets audited every year, big or small. Tax fraud is a crime, after all.
Posted on 1/27/26 at 10:09 am to Joshjrn
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True or false: he was unarmed when he was shot and killed.
It appears that he was disarmed during the confrontation and at some point someone who was not the person who disarmed him shot him. I never claimed it was a justified shooting but it is not as if this man was standing with arms in the air following verbal commands and was executed.
Posted on 1/27/26 at 10:10 am to Ingeniero
a little different than harassing and attacking law enforcement
Posted on 1/27/26 at 10:12 am to tigersmanager
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stop breaking the law it's that easy
I assume you’ve broken no laws, ever, in your entire life?
Posted on 1/27/26 at 10:13 am to tigersmanager
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a little different than harassing and attacking law enforcement
It's not at all different. You're defending criminals committing tax fraud if you don't want what I listed. Why do you love crime and lawlessness?
Posted on 1/27/26 at 10:15 am to Purple Spoon
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It appears that he was disarmed during the confrontation and at some point someone who was not the person who disarmed him shot him. I never claimed it was a justified shooting but it is not as if this man was standing with arms in the air following verbal commands and was executed.
You posted that saying he was “unarmed” was a “big reach”. Was solely addressing that
Posted on 1/27/26 at 10:15 am to Joshjrn
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I think the “moderate middle” thought we would be deporting people convicted, or at least arrested, for serious criminal activity after entering the country. They weren’t expecting random housewives who have been here decades or college kids with spotless histories to get wrapped up in it.
Ignorance on the "moderate middle"'s part. Especially when it was stated, multiple times, that localities that fail to honor ICE detainers would then result in agents going to the neighborhoods to find those individuals and would result in those not being specifically targeted to get swept up too. The law is clear, if you are here illegally then you are subject to removal. My dad has been a green card holder for 40+ years and has done everything neccessary to maintain his legal status no matter how inconvenient.
Posted on 1/27/26 at 10:16 am to Purple Spoon
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It appears that he was disarmed during the confrontation and at some point someone who was not the person who disarmed him shot him. I never claimed it was a justified shooting but it is not as if this man was standing with arms in the air following verbal commands and was executed.
It also appears that moments after the officer was able to remove the weapon, Pretti reached back to the holster or area that it was, and he pulled something from it, i'm assuming it was the spare magazine but we don't know for certain. Don't know if he felt it getting pulled from the holser and was going for it or what (officers wouldn't have known either), but he did pull something out of it from that area that didn't look like he had in his hand prior to that motion.
About that time is when the audio sounds like people saying gun and then moments after I think Pretti's gun had an accidental discharge as the officer was escorting it away, which is what caused the reactions from the other officers. Unfortunately they didn't know in those split seconds that he didn't actually have his gun in his right hand.
That's just me trying to piece together what we have so far, not saying that is definitively what happened, at this point I think that is just the most likely sequence of events. It is an awful thing he lost his life, but like so many of these incidents, there is almost too many poor decisions made to count that could have prevented all of it by all parties involved.
This post was edited on 1/27/26 at 10:17 am
Posted on 1/27/26 at 10:24 am to GoCrazyAuburn
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It also appears that moments after the officer was able to remove the weapon, Pretti reached back to the holster or area that it was, and he pulled something from it, i'm assuming it was the spare magazine but we don't know for certain. Don't know if he felt it getting pulled from the holser and was going for it or what (officers wouldn't have known either), but he did pull something out of it from that area that didn't look like he had in his hand prior to that motion
Thats him reacting to being shot. It's irrelevant if he reached back after he was shot. He is dead a second later.
Hes down in a cradle position when he is shot at 1:01, rises up at 1:02 (some have used this moment to way he was reaching for his waist), and is dead at 1:03
This post was edited on 1/27/26 at 10:25 am
Posted on 1/27/26 at 10:26 am to Clames
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Ignorance on the "moderate middle"'s part. Especially when it was stated, multiple times, that localities that fail to honor ICE detainers would then result in agents going to the neighborhoods to find those individuals and would result in those not being specifically targeted to get swept up too. The law is clear, if you are here illegally then you are subject to removal. My dad has been a green card holder for 40+ years and has done everything neccessary to maintain his legal status no matter how inconvenient.
That’s fine. My point is “deport every illegal, no exceptions” is a very, very unpopular opinion in this country. And there’s nothing wrong with advocating for a politically unpopular opinion; one simply shouldn’t lose sight of the fact that it is, in fact, politically unpopular.
Posted on 1/27/26 at 10:27 am to sgallo3
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Thats him reacting to being shot
Nope, that is after the point I am talking about I believe, but maybe those are. I'll have to go back to look at the video, not the stills.
This post was edited on 1/27/26 at 10:31 am
Posted on 1/27/26 at 10:27 am to Ingeniero
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The lady who was filming and took 2 1/2 steps and full arm extension from the agent to close the distance was "obstructing?"
Absof*ckinglutely.
She is required to be back 25 feet. She's getting right up in their faces. She’s probably blowing a whistle and screaming at them – although we can’t hear that in the videos.
Is it REALLY your contention that she’s not directly attempting to interfere with a legitimate law-enforcement action?
That's her whole f*cking reason for being out there. This is what Tampon Timmy told her to do.
Posted on 1/27/26 at 10:28 am to Joshjrn
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You posted that saying he was “unarmed” was a “big reach”. Was solely addressing that
BIG reach because based on the videos there is no way for the agents to know that he had been disarmed before he was shot.
Posted on 1/27/26 at 10:34 am to Purple Spoon
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BIG reach because based on the videos there is no way for the agents to know that he had been disarmed before he was shot.
If you can yell "Gun! Gun! Gun!," you can also yell about disarming them just as easily. Pretending this isn't feasible is laughable.
Posted on 1/27/26 at 10:36 am to MoarKilometers
So do we owe the rioters in Minn a check like the 1/6 Patriots ??
Posted on 1/27/26 at 10:37 am to Purple Spoon
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BIG reach because based on the videos there is no way for the agents to know that he had been disarmed before he was shot.
I don’t believe anyone has said they believed the officer who shot him knew he was unarmed; if they did, I would agree that would be a big reach.
Saying it’s a big reach to say that he was, in fact, unarmed isn’t reflective of reality, in my opinion.
Posted on 1/27/26 at 10:38 am to MoarKilometers
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If you can yell "Gun! Gun! Gun!," you can also yell about disarming them just as easily. Pretending this isn't feasible is laughable.
I don't completely disagree, but in the moment you shouldn't assume that is the only weapon. You alert that he is armed and still could be armed. Until he is fully searched, the threat is still there.
Posted on 1/27/26 at 10:38 am to notbilly
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What situation are you talking about?
Where exactly in FantasyF*ckingLand do you TDS-infected pedophile protectors live?
You leftist whackjobs really need to get some serious f*cking professional help.
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