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re: You are armed with a pistol. How to stop a mass shooter if he's wearing tactical gear?
Posted on 2/27/18 at 1:56 pm to crazyLSUstudent
Posted on 2/27/18 at 1:56 pm to crazyLSUstudent
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Do yall think getting hit with gunfire with Kevlar on does not hurt? It is going to put you on the ground
People have been playing too many video games and watching too many movies. Unless you’re shooting a .22 pistol at the guy, he’s gonna go down after a shot or two.
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Posted on 2/27/18 at 1:57 pm to SUB
No, you fire at him to neutralize the threat. There’s no “hope” to it. 3 or 4 shots center mass will drop him. No ones gonna keep running around with cracked ribs and possible internal bleeding.
Posted on 2/27/18 at 1:58 pm to SUB
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It seems that in a lot of cases, mass shooters wear body armor / tactical gear to protect themselves from gun shots. If you were a school resource officer, security guard, whatever, and only had a pistol, how would you stop someone with a better weapon(s), such as a long gun, and gear?
Easy. Use my 5.7 with green tips.
Posted on 2/27/18 at 2:00 pm to SUB
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It seems that in a lot of cases, mass shooters wear body armor / tactical gear to protect themselves from gun shots. If you were a school resource officer, security guard, whatever, and only had a pistol, how would you stop someone with a better weapon(s), such as a long gun, and gear?
Well seeing as how these people with equipment/better weapons are nearly ALWAYS absolute nerds with little to no experience in using the weapons/equipment. Shoot him in the head and be done with it?
Posted on 2/27/18 at 2:03 pm to CHEDBALLZ
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even with body armour anything from a .357 on up will knock someone down
THANK YOU. I don't care if you have body armor on, a good round is going to render you on the ground and hurting no matter shot placement.
Posted on 2/27/18 at 2:08 pm to SUB
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If you were a school resource officer, security guard, whatever, and only had a pistol, how would you stop someone with a better weapon(s), such as a long gun, and gear?
Every second you are distracting the shooter you could be saving someone's life plus giving the back up time to arrive. Nothing but a yellow belly coward would hide and wait on back up or orders.
Posted on 2/27/18 at 2:10 pm to SUB
Well if my options are the pistol or have nothing at all. I'll take the gun.
Posted on 2/27/18 at 2:11 pm to ElectricWizard0
Even if it doesn't drop them. Just shooting at them has been proven to stop them. They will run to a room and something like half of them will commit suicide.
You don't even have to hit them.
You don't even have to hit them.
Posted on 2/27/18 at 2:15 pm to kengel2
Double tap the chest and then a couple to the head
This post was edited on 2/27/18 at 2:16 pm
Posted on 2/27/18 at 2:15 pm to SUB
quote:which cases did the shooter have body armor on outside of Aurora?
seems that in a lot of cases, mass shooters wear body armor / tactical gear to protect themselves from gun shots. If you were a school resource officer, security guard, whatever, and only had a pistol, how would you stop someone with a better weapon(s), such as a long gun, and gear?
98% of mass shootings occur in gun free zones. I think anyone putting shots on these cowards would have a significant effect on the outcome.
This post was edited on 2/27/18 at 2:18 pm
Posted on 2/27/18 at 2:15 pm to offshoretrash
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Every second you are distracting the shooter you could be saving someone's life plus giving the back up time to arrive. Nothing but a yellow belly coward would hide and wait on back up or orders.
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This is the answer.
Google the North Hollywood Bank Robbery shooting.
Short version..during the assault weapon ban 2 guys with head to toe body armor and AK47s enter a bank and rob it. On the way out they are confronted by a few police with handguns. These officers distracted the robbers until backup arrived to help.
2 people died....the 2 robbers.
Every second you are distracting the shooter you could be saving someone's life plus giving the back up time to arrive. Nothing but a yellow belly coward would hide and wait on back up or orders.
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This is the answer.
Google the North Hollywood Bank Robbery shooting.
Short version..during the assault weapon ban 2 guys with head to toe body armor and AK47s enter a bank and rob it. On the way out they are confronted by a few police with handguns. These officers distracted the robbers until backup arrived to help.
2 people died....the 2 robbers.
Posted on 2/27/18 at 2:16 pm to SUB
My instinct would be to aim small miss small at the arm pit or neck or hands.
However, trained hostage professionals always start by opening up communication. So if I stopped and let instinct pass and mimicked professionals, I'd attempt to get them talking, even if I had to hide behind a wall and yell. Hoping those trapped could get out.
But I'd most likely start shooting as above.
However, trained hostage professionals always start by opening up communication. So if I stopped and let instinct pass and mimicked professionals, I'd attempt to get them talking, even if I had to hide behind a wall and yell. Hoping those trapped could get out.
But I'd most likely start shooting as above.
Posted on 2/27/18 at 2:17 pm to SUB
Head (actually face) shot if possible.
Another thing to consider is that even with a vest on there is still a significant impact of the bullet. I have a friend who is a deputy and he was serving a warrant on a guy and got shot through the door with a .44 magnum. Knocked him out cold. But even if a smaller caliber round is used it still feels like getting hit with a hammer. It is not like on TV where you jump up and chase the guy around after getting shot.
So if you shoot him in the 10 ring (center mass) and knock him off his feet a head shot follow up would be possible,
Another thing to consider is that even with a vest on there is still a significant impact of the bullet. I have a friend who is a deputy and he was serving a warrant on a guy and got shot through the door with a .44 magnum. Knocked him out cold. But even if a smaller caliber round is used it still feels like getting hit with a hammer. It is not like on TV where you jump up and chase the guy around after getting shot.
So if you shoot him in the 10 ring (center mass) and knock him off his feet a head shot follow up would be possible,
Posted on 2/27/18 at 2:17 pm to TheCaterpillar
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Shoot a fire extinguisher
Good idea
Posted on 2/27/18 at 2:19 pm to hob
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Short version..during the assault weapon ban 2 guys with head to toe body armor and AK47s enter a bank and rob it. On the way out they are confronted by a few police with handguns. These officers distracted the robbers until backup arrived to help.
That shooting is what started police carrying rifles in their cars.
The whole department was out gunned.
One guy went down from shots to his feet and ankle then a head shot. The other guy committed suicide
This post was edited on 2/27/18 at 2:20 pm
Posted on 2/27/18 at 2:19 pm to alphaandomega
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Head (actually face) shot if possible.
That's a hard shot to make on a moving target with a pistol.
Posted on 2/27/18 at 2:20 pm to SUB
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How to stop a mass shooter if he's wearing tactical gear?
Posted on 2/27/18 at 2:21 pm to SUB
shite I'm a black belt in karate, my hands are assault weapons
Posted on 2/27/18 at 2:22 pm to SUB
Unless you are hopped up on PCP or something simliar, a .45 to the chest will stop you in your tracks even with a vest on. Its not like the bullet ceases to have a massive ammount of energy when it encounters a vest.
I still shoot for center mass, possibly a little low towards the belly/groin.
I still shoot for center mass, possibly a little low towards the belly/groin.
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