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re: WSJ: vaccines reduces chance of CV19 hospitalization to .00056%

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Posted by BhamDore
Nashville
Member since Aug 2009
6499 posts
Posted on 4/15/21 at 1:25 pm to
People should get the vaccine. Not for themselves, but for the people they could pass it to. My grandfather passed Wednesday night from Covoid. Spent the last 2 weeks of his life alone in a hospital.

My cousin caught covoid and passed it to him. The whole family is pissed with her.

He was 91 and when he caught it we all knew he would probably not make it.

He lived a full and great life , but he didn't deserve to spend his last days alone.

I only got one grandparent left now.


Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 4/15/21 at 1:27 pm to
I’m more in favor of personal responsibility and risk assessment. I don’t care whether or not I get Covid. I’d rather live a normal life and deal with the consequences. What any other person decides to do is their choice.
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 4/15/21 at 1:27 pm to
The % hospitalized of people who got covid is not a bullshite stat because we already know the hospitalization rate of covid from dealing with it for the past year.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
109620 posts
Posted on 4/15/21 at 1:27 pm to
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lmao if you think they'll stop restricting things just because most people get the Fauci ouchie


Where are the goalposts now?
Posted by chryso
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
13520 posts
Posted on 4/15/21 at 1:28 pm to
Democrats sure do like to say, "My body, my choice" in other situations about what you can do with your body. Why does this not apply to masks or vaccines?
Posted by FatMan
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2016
2053 posts
Posted on 4/15/21 at 1:28 pm to
Whats the normal rate needing hospitalization? Probably not much more than 7%...
Posted by BrockLee
Member since Sep 2020
55 posts
Posted on 4/15/21 at 1:29 pm to
Which is it?

Flu dramatically reduced by 98% in 2020 compared to 2019 because masks are worn.
Covid is soaring because people arent wearing their masks.

US 2019 Flu estimated flu illnesses 56M
US 2020 Covid estimated illnesses 31M

Posted by bbap
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 4/15/21 at 1:29 pm to
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The % hospitalized of people who got covid is not a bullshite stat because we already know the hospitalization rate of covid from dealing with it for the past year.



ok, what is it?
Posted by Tiguar
Montana
Member since Mar 2012
33131 posts
Posted on 4/15/21 at 1:31 pm to
40% if you have at least one underlying condition, which is a lot of you.

LINK
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
175758 posts
Posted on 4/15/21 at 1:31 pm to
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WSJ: vaccines reduces chance of CV19 hospitalization to .00056%


What minuscule number is that down from?
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
20696 posts
Posted on 4/15/21 at 1:31 pm to
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The % hospitalized of people who got covid is not a bullshite stat because we already know the hospitalization rate of covid from dealing with it for the past year.

Do we really know that number? The #s they provide show the # of people in the hospital system that have COVID. We do not know which ones are there because of COVID, and which ones are there for other reasons but happen to have COVID. In addition, since people in hospitals with COVID are typically there for numerous days, we don't have a true count of total people in the hospitals for/with COVID.
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
56524 posts
Posted on 4/15/21 at 1:33 pm to
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40% if you have at least one underlying condition, which is a lot of you.



That's a hell of a lot higher than I would have thought.
Posted by bbap
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2006
96861 posts
Posted on 4/15/21 at 1:33 pm to
I agree the chances are likely lower of being hospitalized if you have the vaccine than without. I'm not against the vaccine, I'm for it.

But surely you don't believe 40% of people who got COVID were hospitalized. I have no idea where they are pulling that number from.
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
175758 posts
Posted on 4/15/21 at 1:34 pm to
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40% if you have at least one underlying condition, which is a lot of you.

LINK

Lol Data from February and March of 2020. Next thing you link will say put hospitalized people right on a ventilator.
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
20696 posts
Posted on 4/15/21 at 1:34 pm to
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40% if you have at least one underlying condition, which is a lot of you.

Still doesn't account for everyone that had COVID; where as, the other article accounted for everyone that had vaccines. So, not similar numbers.

Plus, this is from March 2020
Posted by bbap
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2006
96861 posts
Posted on 4/15/21 at 1:34 pm to
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That's a hell of a lot higher than I would have thought.



That's because it's not even remotely accurate. You don't even have to do a study to know that's false.
Posted by skullhawk
My house
Member since Nov 2007
27114 posts
Posted on 4/15/21 at 1:34 pm to
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But over 2,000 dies, so theres that

And now we find out you have to be vaccinated every year. Where theres a 1% chance youll drop dead immediately following


I believe that works out to .003%

quote:

vaccines reduces chance of CV19 hospitalization to .00056%


and to the OP, doesn't this math assume all of these folks were exposed to covid 19? I think it's clear that the vaccines are effective against covid but reporting it this way seems disingenuous
Posted by bbap
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2006
96861 posts
Posted on 4/15/21 at 1:35 pm to
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Lol Data from February and March of 2020. Next thing you link will say put hospitalized people right on a ventilator.



oh ok. i was wondering what the hell he was talking about, didn't even see the date.

Imagine believing almost half of the people you knew that got covid had to be hospitalized.
This post was edited on 4/15/21 at 1:36 pm
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
38936 posts
Posted on 4/15/21 at 1:36 pm to
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There is no reason to mask up or "socially distance" anymore.


There never was.

There's actually dipshits on here who believe 500K died because of the Chinese Flu.
Posted by bbap
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2006
96861 posts
Posted on 4/15/21 at 1:37 pm to
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but reporting it this way seems disingenuous


it seems that way because it is.

The vaccine is doing well enough on it's own without fabricating percentages.
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