re: WSJ: The High-School Juniors With $70,000-a-Year Job Offers

Plenty of affordable towns outside of Philly and south jersey

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Every single metric, every single one of them, shows college graduates still make more than non college graduates as a whole, plus time off, plus benefits, plus no demand on the body

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These stats are likely skewed by the very rare executive level positions.

This discussion been entirely about median or people referencing average fricking idiot lmao

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This discussion been entirely about median or people referencing average fricking idiot lmao

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Calls someone a fricking idiot, writes a “sentence” that makes no sense

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ou’re being obscure acting like every welder makes good money while ALL of the data shows that’s not true

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I'm not trying to say that at all. I agreed with that you a lot of the jobs are shitty. But it is possible to make a very good living without breaking your back. I saw it first hand.

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But it is possible to make a very good living without breaking your back.

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It’s possible to be the president of the United States too. Hell, literally any natural born citizen over 35 can do it.

Do you see how fricking stupid that sounds?

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Seeing as that is something not even a remotely similar comparison, yes, I do see how stupid that sounds on your part.

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Literally anyone could do it. Literally anyone can make $150k welding (contingent they’re willing to travel 9 months a year, be 20 years into their career, be in the 99th percentile of earners in the field, etc)

The whole point is the comparison is insane

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I'm not trying to say that at all. I agreed with that you a lot of the jobs are shitty. But it is possible to make a very good living without breaking your back. I saw it first hand.

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sure but the definition of a good living is dependent on your POV. IMO anything less than 200k household isnt a good living but my view is skewed.

IMO anything working 12 hour shifts, more than 100 hours of OT a year, not sleeping in my own bed does not provide a good living.

imo a good living is being able to pick my kids up at 3 without having to ask permission at the same time being able to cook and eat breakfast with them daily. Being able to attend school functions during the day, sporting events without having to ask off, putting them to bed every night, not risking my health all while making a minimum of 3x the amount the OP is talking about is a good living imo.

but again my view is skewed as is mingos so our definition is not what much of the OT has. Many on the OT are ok with mediocrity with a 70k a year job and very little chance for advancement.

i have done the trades and am a certified pipefitter and did it for years....the trades fricking suck. All good in march but in the august heat or the january cold all while risking health....frick that.

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Some certainly do...the average makes far less than the 6 figure often touted.

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those that do make over 6 figures are doing it with lots of OT. frick that, my time is valuable.

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A rare uplifting article from the WSJ.

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I actually find it somewhat depressing. I would have jumped right on such an opportunity when I was 17, and would have never made it to college. Something along those lines damn near happened, actually, and in hindsight I'm really glad it didn't. I learned a lot in college.

Now, I did work 3 semesters as a coop student in two different plants, and that was a good compromise between what I wanted to do (make a living wage by hook or crook) and what I needed to do (go to college and get educated).