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re: WSJ: How a Man Convicted of Running a Latin American Narco State Landed a Pardon
Posted on 12/4/25 at 3:08 pm to Bestbank Tiger
Posted on 12/4/25 at 3:08 pm to Bestbank Tiger
quote:Maxwell was convicted based on real, named minors who testified, plus documents, photos, flight records, and every other piece of evidence you would know about if you'd ever read past the headlines. Their identities were known to the court and the jury.
In fairness she trafficked the girls to nobody....
Regardless of what maga influencers tell you, criminal law doesn’t require the government to publish a VIP guest list to convict a trafficker any more than it has to name every user to convict a drug dealer. I know that’s disappointing for people who think trials are supposed to operate like a TMZ story, but the crime is the recruiting and transporting of victims for abuse, which is exactly what the jury found she did.
The honest version of your “she trafficked to no one” line is: “I don’t like where this points politically, so I’m going to pretend the victims don’t exist.”
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Posted on 12/4/25 at 3:35 pm to Privateer 2007
quote:You are asking who she trafficked them to, so let me ask you some things back:
I don't get the hate on you for this.
Who did she traffick them to?
Why aren't they arrested?
If don't know, why is there no investigation?
-If Epstein was the named co-conspirator in the indictment, and the victims testified directly about being recruited for him, who do you think the primary abuser is supposed to be?
- If the primary abuser is dead, how exactly do you imagine an arrest is supposed to happen?
- Do you think a trafficking conviction requires prosecutors to arrest every single downstream participant before they are allowed to charge the recruiter?
- And If that were true, how could we ever convict a drug dealer without first rounding up every customer?
The victims were real, they testified under oath, and their identities were fully known to the court. Multiple investigations and civil suits already happened. The idea that none of this exists because you personally want a longer guest list is an escape hatch, not a logical requirement.
The real question is this: is the standard “what does the evidence show,” or is the standard “what conclusion would be most comfortable for you, politically”?
Because only one of those leads you to pretending the victims never existed.
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Fails logic.
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Free Ghislane!
Posted on 12/4/25 at 4:06 pm to mmmmmbeeer
I wonder what donation amounts to the Presidential Library complex were for these people and their lawyers
Posted on 12/5/25 at 1:38 am to rickgrimes
Pardoning this guy and the Silk Road founder makes no sense
Posted on 12/5/25 at 1:50 am to JoeyP239
quote:Sipping Mar-a-Lago swamp water makes it all feel better.
Pardoning this guy and the Silk Road founder makes no sense
Posted on 12/5/25 at 2:21 am to el duderino III
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Anyone who claims to be conservative should be embarrassed by this.
When Charlie Kirk was assassinated, that was the moment I decided I will forever turn a blind eye to all of the stupid shite Trump says and does
Posted on 12/5/25 at 8:27 am to DavidTheGnome
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A pardon was granted to someone convicted of smuggling 400 tons of coke into the US while at the same time we are gearing up for war because of muh drugs. Is anything even necessary?
I mean, we also staffed NASA with Nazis.
Posted on 12/5/25 at 8:42 am to Spankum
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Fact is, Trump will not hesitate to pardon anyone who is rich and/or influential. He is a master of using his office for his own gain.
Be specific
Posted on 12/5/25 at 8:49 am to KiwiHead
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I wonder what donation amounts to the Presidential Library complex were for these people and their lawyers
That's the fun part...trying to figure out which of the many ways to pay a bribery are in play for each pardon. Presidential Library? The East Wing? Crypto transfer? Business deal with the kiddos?
No telling.
Posted on 12/5/25 at 8:51 am to fr33manator
quote:That actually served a purpose.
I mean, we also staffed NASA with Nazis.
Posted on 12/5/25 at 9:42 am to JoeyP239
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Silk Road founder
Pardoning Ross Ulbricht is one of the best things Trump did with his presidency. The main agent in charge of investigating him is in jail now because of all the shady shite he did.
ETA: I do also see the irony now that he pardoned a convicted drug trafficker and the creator of the largest drug marketplace ever while talking about getting us in a hot war with Venezuela to stop drugs coming into the US.
This post was edited on 12/5/25 at 9:44 am
Posted on 12/5/25 at 9:48 am to rickgrimes
Thanks trump.
Posted on 12/5/25 at 9:57 am to el duderino III
He likely was working for the government
Posted on 12/5/25 at 10:00 am to lionward2014
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Pardoning Ross Ulbricht is one of the best things Trump did with his presidency.
I don’t disagree about the drug stuff, but wasn’t he caught up in a murder for hire conspiracy?
Posted on 12/5/25 at 10:47 am to sharkfhin
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All you haters, "cry more". Yall's TDS is incurable.
It doesn’t take TDS to object to pardoning criminals.
Posted on 12/5/25 at 10:52 am to Penrod
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doesn’t take TDS to object to pardoning criminals.
So you’re only in favor of presidential pardons of non-criminals?
Posted on 12/5/25 at 10:53 am to BraveCajun
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So you’re only in favor of presidential pardons of non-criminals?
No. I’m in favor of judicious use of the Presidential pardon.
Posted on 12/5/25 at 12:17 pm to Penrod
The guy was framed. Do your research lefty.
Posted on 12/5/25 at 2:41 pm to sharkfhin
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The guy was framed. Do your research lefty.
Was he? Framed by the first Trump administration and pardoned by the second?
Posted on 12/5/25 at 4:08 pm to rickgrimes
Oh? I thought you were going to mention one of the Bush family or Clinton.
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