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WSJ: Job Listings Abound, but Many Are Fake

Posted on 3/21/23 at 7:39 am
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 3/21/23 at 7:39 am
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In an uncertain economy, companies post ads for jobs they might not really be trying to fill

WSJ

A mystery permeates the job market: You apply for a job and hear nothing, but the ad stays online for months. If you inquire, the company tells you it isn’t really hiring.

Not all job ads are attached to actual jobs, it turns out. The labor market remains robust, with 10.8 million job openings in January, according to the Labor Department. At the same time, companies are feeling budgetary strains and some are pulling back on hiring. Though businesses are keeping job postings up, many roles aren’t being filled, recruiters say.

Hiring managers acknowledge as much. In a survey of more than 1,000 hiring managers last summer, 27% reported having job postings up for more than four months. Among those who said they advertised job postings that they weren’t actively trying to fill, close to half said they kept the ads up to give the impression the company was growing, according to Clarify Capital, a small-business-loan provider behind the study. One-third of the managers who said they advertised jobs they weren’t trying to fill said they kept the listings up to placate overworked employees.
Posted by LSU Grad Alabama Fan
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Posted on 3/21/23 at 7:41 am to
I applied for 300 jobs in 2010. I will agree.
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Posted on 3/21/23 at 7:41 am to
It always happens in a down employment market. Recruiters and headhunters are stuffing their database with well qualified resumes so that IF there is a rebound they will have a solid working list.

Posted by WylieTiger
Member since Nov 2006
12943 posts
Posted on 3/21/23 at 7:41 am to
These people are stupid.
Posted by msutiger
Shreveport
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Posted on 3/21/23 at 7:41 am to
Best economy ever
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
164115 posts
Posted on 3/21/23 at 7:42 am to
Companies sell your info too. I applied for a job, never heard back, and now I get a bunch of emails every day about random unrelated jobs in the same random city that job I applied for is in.
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
113941 posts
Posted on 3/21/23 at 7:48 am to
Someone I know who works in HR told me one time that indeed takes job listing off of their company site and post them and that they will have people applying for jobs that have already been filled.
Posted by prplhze2000
Parts Unknown
Member since Jan 2007
51383 posts
Posted on 3/21/23 at 7:50 am to
State does that crap.
Posted by 3nOut
Central Texas, TX
Member since Jan 2013
28876 posts
Posted on 3/21/23 at 7:53 am to
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Hiring managers acknowledge as much. In a survey of more than 1,000 hiring managers last summer, 27% reported having job postings up for more than four months. Among those who said they advertised job postings that they weren’t actively trying to fill, close to half said they kept the ads up to give the impression the company was growing, according to Clarify Capital, a small-business-loan provider behind the study. One-third of the managers who said they advertised jobs they weren’t trying to fill said they kept the listings up to placate overworked employees.



This is very common in my customer base. Usually somebody will leave and they’ll post the position but have others take on their duties and then after a while just say “we’re dissolving the position” which usually means others are going to take on those duties without additional pay.

ETA: my customer base is a government entity.
This post was edited on 3/21/23 at 7:55 am
Posted by Jack Bauers HnK
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
5708 posts
Posted on 3/21/23 at 8:00 am to
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This is very common in my customer base. Usually somebody will leave and they’ll post the position but have others take on their duties and then after a while just say “we’re dissolving the position” which usually means others are going to take on those duties without additional pay. ETA: my customer base is a government entity.


The more dissolved government positions, the better.
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 3/21/23 at 8:01 am to
You mean I'm not gonna get paid for showing my dick on camera?

This is bullshite
Posted by TomJoadGhost
Alabama
Member since Nov 2022
1003 posts
Posted on 3/21/23 at 8:01 am to
This has been going on for years.
Posted by Sheep
Neither here nor there
Member since Jun 2007
19493 posts
Posted on 3/21/23 at 8:02 am to
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The more dissolved government positions, the better.


"Why does _____ take so long / is so difficult?"
Posted by TomJoadGhost
Alabama
Member since Nov 2022
1003 posts
Posted on 3/21/23 at 8:09 am to
quote:

This is very common in my customer base. Usually somebody will leave and they’ll post the position but have others take on their duties and then after a while just say “we’re dissolving the position” which usually means others are going to take on those duties without additional pay. ETA: my customer base is a government entity.



I work in government and most times I’ve seen this happen internally it’s because the applicant pool was so poor. I’m actually dealing with that very situation right now.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
51270 posts
Posted on 3/21/23 at 8:15 am to
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I work in government and most times I’ve seen this happen internally it’s because the applicant pool was so poor. I’m actually dealing with that very situation right now.



Nobody can get hired for the government agency I'm around because nobody can pass a drug test.
Posted by dewster
Chicago
Member since Aug 2006
25342 posts
Posted on 3/21/23 at 8:23 am to
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Nobody can get hired for the government agency I'm around because nobody can pass a drug test.



Back when we lived in PA, I had heard that this was the real reason the old VW plant in New Stanton would never be reused as a car plant.

It was repurposed into a distribution center or something that needs far fewer employees. So many able bodied people couldn't pass a drug screen.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
30197 posts
Posted on 3/21/23 at 8:45 am to
There are (or at least were) programs that companies could take advantage of (seems like it was related to unemployment insurance breaks) that required you to list jobs through a government agency. So even when you have a really good idea of who you would hire, you still posted the job and then hired who you were gonna hire anyway. Stupid, really, but it's a way companies play the game.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Member since Jun 2009
84081 posts
Posted on 3/21/23 at 8:51 am to
quote:

This is very common in my customer base. Usually somebody will leave and they’ll post the position but have others take on their duties and then after a while just say “we’re dissolving the position” which usually means others are going to take on those duties without additional pay.

ETA: my customer base is a government entity.



This sounds familiar
Posted by TomJoadGhost
Alabama
Member since Nov 2022
1003 posts
Posted on 3/21/23 at 8:54 am to
quote:

Nobody can get hired for the government agency I'm around because nobody can pass a drug test.


Driving record is a bigger hurdle than drug tests for us.
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
16367 posts
Posted on 3/21/23 at 8:57 am to
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This has been going on for years.

Was going to say this has always been a thing since online job posting became a thing. I remember when I was actively looking, I would often apply for jobs posted by recruiters; and they would tell me that the listing wasn't for an actual job but so a new recruiter could build a database of resumes for when they do have positions to post for.

As others pointed out, you often get inundated with a lot of crappy & unqualified candidates. So, you're forced to keep the posting up and or take it down and relist every so often.
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