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re: Would you take $50 million tax free or $2 million/year tax free for life

Posted on 2/12/20 at 12:40 pm to
Posted by scrooster
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Posted on 2/12/20 at 12:40 pm to
$50 million up front tax free (or after taxes more likely) .... it's a no brainer for anyone over the age of 25.
Posted by CptRusty
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Posted on 2/12/20 at 12:41 pm to
Posted by Ed Osteen
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Posted on 2/12/20 at 12:41 pm to
take the 50, it isn't debatable
Posted by CuyahogaTigerJr
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Posted on 2/12/20 at 12:42 pm to
2 mill a year I’m 36
Posted by moneyg
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Posted on 2/12/20 at 12:42 pm to
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Would you take $50 million tax free


This isn't close
Posted by Bayou_Tiger_225
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Posted on 2/12/20 at 12:42 pm to
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it's a no brainer for anyone over the age of 25.
age has nothing to do with it. This is a no-brainer for anybody.
Posted by shel311
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Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 2/12/20 at 12:45 pm to
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Never did understand lotto winners that took all $ up front (eat more and taxes and higher chance go broke)
1. Because if you invest the bulk of it, you will still come out ahead in the long run.

2. Because if you die the day after you win without taking the lump sum, all that money you were going to get is gone.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
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Posted on 2/12/20 at 12:45 pm to
Shiii I think I might take 50 over 5/year
Posted by OysterPoBoy
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Posted on 2/12/20 at 12:45 pm to
Yes
Posted by RabidTiger
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 2/12/20 at 12:46 pm to
If you don't take the 50 up front then you dumb. 50 million invested w/7% avg. return is 140 million in 15 years, 380 million in 30 years and almost 1.5 billion in 50 years.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 2/12/20 at 12:48 pm to
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If you don't take the 50 up front then you dumb. 50 million invested w/7% avg. return is 140 million in 15 years, 380 million in 30 years and almost 1.5 billion in 50 years.
I certainly agree on the $50mil, but could you give the same 15/30/50 calculations if you received/invested $2mil per year?
Posted by TrueBaldPate
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Posted on 2/12/20 at 12:51 pm to
50! Plenty for generational wealth. Even with huge tax hit.
Posted by KamaCausey_LSU
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 2/12/20 at 12:53 pm to
Easy, $50 million now.

Should be able to make more than $2 million per year using the $50 million. Just have to make at a maximum 4% annually investing. That's not factoring compounding interest.

If you only make 1% back on the $50 million you'll still have $70 million after 35 years.
Posted by RabidTiger
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Posted on 2/12/20 at 12:54 pm to
2 million annual additions @7% is 15 years: 59 million, 30 years: 217 million, 50 years: 928 million.

However, that's not accounting for spending anything in the interim. If you are skimming off of the proceeds from 50 million to live it affects your outcome a lot less than taking it out of 2 million a year.
Posted by IAmNERD
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Posted on 2/12/20 at 12:55 pm to
2 mil/ year because I plan on Liv ng more than 25 more years. So I'll make more in the long run unless I die in some tragic way. In that case, I will have had a pretty kick arse life with 2 mil per year until my tragic death.
Posted by lsutiger2010
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Posted by mylsuhat
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Posted on 2/12/20 at 12:56 pm to
$50MM

The time value of cash
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 2/12/20 at 12:56 pm to
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2 mil/ year because I plan on Liv ng more than 25 more years.


Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
112918 posts
Posted on 2/12/20 at 12:57 pm to
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2 million annual additions @7% is 15 years: 59 million, 30 years: 217 million, 50 years: 928 million.

However, that's not accounting for spending anything in the interim. If you are skimming off of the proceeds from 50 million to live it affects your outcome a lot less than taking it out of 2 million a year.
good stuff, thanks.

And the biggest of all, if/when you die, that all ends immediately. So you'd have to live nearly 15 years just to get to that $50mil mark to "break even"(and that's not even counting actually investing the $50mil for nearly 15 years) if you will to guarantee you get $50mil like you do on day 1 in the other scenario. That alone makes the lump sum worth, even if those #s you posted were completely opposite, I'd still $50mil for that reason.
This post was edited on 2/12/20 at 1:03 pm
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