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re: Would you take $50 million tax free or $2 million/year tax free for life

Posted on 2/12/20 at 2:19 pm to
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
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Posted on 2/12/20 at 2:19 pm to
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In other words, how many of you believe you will live more than 25 more years from today?



We assuming the folks who get 50 are stuffing it in a mattress, correct?
Posted by lsutiger2010
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Posted on 2/12/20 at 2:22 pm to
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Posted by Cole Beer
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Posted on 2/12/20 at 2:22 pm to
Gimme the $50 million up front - I want to live hard and die young
Posted by NorthGwinnettTiger
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Posted on 2/12/20 at 2:23 pm to
Lump
Posted by TouchedTheAxeIn82
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Posted on 2/12/20 at 2:26 pm to
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The answer is 2 million. Do I want my count of a sister in law or wife’s new boy toy enjoying it if I die 2 years in? frick that. It gets dolled out for only me to enjoy.


Wut?

Have you heard of a will, or a trust? With a trust you set up your estate exactly how you want it while you are still alive. It's better than a will and you won't have to worry about any jerks trying to get their grubby hands on your estate after you die.
Posted by rd280z
Richmond
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Posted on 2/12/20 at 2:27 pm to
50 million since I'm older but if young, 2 million for sure.
Posted by lsutiger2010
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Posted on 2/12/20 at 2:29 pm to
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Posted by RabidTiger
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Posted on 2/12/20 at 2:31 pm to
I want to get all of these folks in a classroom and explain how money works, but I honestly don't know if it would make a difference.
Posted by MintBerry Crunch
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Posted on 2/12/20 at 2:37 pm to

What does capital gains turn that into?
Posted by glassman
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Posted on 2/12/20 at 2:38 pm to
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I want to get all of these folks in a classroom and explain how money works, but I honestly don't know if it would make a difference.


No shite. Even if the 2 million was adjusted for inflation the only answer is the lump no matter what age a person is.
Posted by Janky
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Posted on 2/12/20 at 2:42 pm to
Must be a bunch of women posting in this thread.
Posted by tigeraddict
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Posted on 2/12/20 at 2:42 pm to
$50 mil today.....

25 years from now $2m will not equal $2m from today.


and $50 million now in investments making a conservative 4% will give me $2 mill a year while still keeping the original $50 mil....

and if i die within 25 years, my heirs have more as well...
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
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Posted on 2/12/20 at 2:43 pm to
Interestingly a present worth analysis says that you should take the $50 Million, assuming 6% return on investment.

$2 Million/yr at say 45 years is only worth ~$31MM in todays dollars.

Take the $50 million.
Posted by AUsteriskPride
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Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 2/12/20 at 2:44 pm to
$50 million of course
Posted by LSURussian
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Posted on 2/12/20 at 2:44 pm to
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Would you take $50 million tax free or $2 million/year tax free for life
Hell, yeah, I would!!!
Posted by shel311
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Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 2/12/20 at 2:58 pm to
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I’m young

You can live for 70 more years, you'll still come out ahead taking the $50mil lump sum.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
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Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 2/12/20 at 3:00 pm to
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But you also have 50mm behind that


Correct but you have to take more risk to get closer to that 8%.

That risk means your 50mm behind it becomes more at risk itself, especially if the market goes to crap right after you get the 50mm.

Like I said, I'd still take the 50mm. But I think the assumptions in this thread of what is needed to make this work, aren't as easy as they are listed.

If I'm 20, and I'm offered this deal, and I think I'll live to 90, and I think tax rates are going way up and the market is going way down...
Posted by Gondor
Jacksonville, Fl
Member since Nov 2004
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Posted on 2/12/20 at 3:05 pm to
The $50 million. Assuming I could invest part of $50 million, I could make way more that $2 million (of course it would be taxable but what isn't in today's real life)?
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 2/12/20 at 3:07 pm to
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Correct but you have to take more risk to get closer to that 8%.

That risk means your 50mm behind it becomes more at risk itself, especially if the market goes to crap right after you get the 50mm.

Like I said, I'd still take the 50mm. But I think the assumptions in this thread of what is needed to make this work, aren't as easy as they are listed.

If I'm 20, and I'm offered this deal, and I think I'll live to 90, and I think tax rates are going way up and the market is going way down...




If I net 1.5mm annually, and still have 50mm invested, you're going to say I'm better off taking 2mm tax free annually?


I'm going to ignore the taxes and stock market stuff after that because one is an unknown and the other would lead to an apocalypse
Posted by MSUDawg98
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Posted on 2/12/20 at 3:15 pm to
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If I'm 20, and I'm offered this deal, and I think I'll live to 90, and I think tax rates are going way up and the market is going way down


That right there is the likely result. If you're offered that in your 20s, you still have that invincibility mindset. Have a couple of kids and watch the death of your grandparents then an early death of a parent... that will check that mindset posthaste.

I've always been taught how safe/aggressive you are with your retirement investments depends on when you start pouring money into it. If you're in your 20s take the 50 and put most of it in US Treasury bonds while making a few aggressive moves with the matured value/profit of the bonds saving your arse if you stupidly invest in an Enron-like company.
This post was edited on 2/12/20 at 3:17 pm
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