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Would we be buying cars directly from manufacturers today without dealer protections?

Posted on 2/5/19 at 9:52 am
Posted by weagle99
Member since Nov 2011
35893 posts
Posted on 2/5/19 at 9:52 am
Why are we being forced by government to still include a middleman in the auto buying process?

quote:

In the United States, direct manufacturer auto sales are prohibited in almost every state by franchise laws requiring that new cars be sold only by dealers


Posted by upgrayedd
Lifting at Tobin's house
Member since Mar 2013
139207 posts
Posted on 2/5/19 at 9:53 am to
Same thing with booze.

It's to "protect the consumer"


Can you imagine if we bought directly from the factory?!

This post was edited on 2/5/19 at 9:57 am
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
80723 posts
Posted on 2/5/19 at 9:55 am to
The three tier system of liquor is the biggest house of cards in the US today.

That's why they spend so much lobbying state governments.
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
33687 posts
Posted on 2/5/19 at 9:57 am to
"It's for your own good, citizen. Pay it and shut up." -- everyone who reaches into your pocket when you buy a car
Posted by MrLarson
Member since Oct 2014
34984 posts
Posted on 2/5/19 at 9:57 am to
Dealer networks exist in almost everything. Ford/GM/Dodge isn't building service centers in 50 cities in all states.
Posted by Gaston
Dirty Coast
Member since Aug 2008
41694 posts
Posted on 2/5/19 at 9:58 am to
We bought our Volvo online, although the final transaction and pick up was at the dealer. Deposit was online, port options were arranged through Volvo USA. Only let down in the process was at the dealership. Their service is turrible.
Posted by ellishughtiger
70118
Member since Jul 2004
21182 posts
Posted on 2/5/19 at 9:58 am to
Car salesman are insufferable

The next car I buy will be used from Carmax or the car vending machine. That's unless I decide to splurge and buy a Tesla.
Posted by BestBanker
Member since Nov 2011
19717 posts
Posted on 2/5/19 at 10:00 am to
Same thing with income tax filing and accountants.

Jobs. Jobs. Jobs.
Posted by achenator
Member since Oct 2014
3331 posts
Posted on 2/5/19 at 10:01 am to
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The next car I buy will be used from Carmax or the car vending machine. That's unless I decide to splurge and buy a Tesla.
Have you talked to someone who has been through the Tesla buying process? Not exactly smooth from what I understand.
Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
33687 posts
Posted on 2/5/19 at 10:04 am to
quote:

Dealer networks exist in almost everything. Ford/GM/Dodge isn't building service centers in 50 cities in all states.


How many of those are protected and mandated by law? What if a manufacturer named Tesla had a business model they think would beat the antiquated dealer network model and wanted to sell directly to the customer, but was prohibited from competing that way in most states by protectionist policies bought and paid for by the people who most stand to be disrupted by a better business model?
This post was edited on 2/5/19 at 10:06 am
Posted by TOSOV
Member since Jan 2016
8922 posts
Posted on 2/5/19 at 10:07 am to
quote:

Can you imagine if we bought directly from the factory?!


Yeah thinking it's the same. Shady sales people on the factory showroom floor. Dealerships are like "warehouses" for the mfgrs to get money too for the vehicles as the dealers are purchasing them. So just like any dealer network.

I just hate the scam at the end trying to tack things on. Ask the sales rep to tell you all of what will be pushed prior to getting to the finance office, and you"ll get nowhere
Posted by jimdog
columbus, ga
Member since Dec 2012
6636 posts
Posted on 2/5/19 at 11:22 am to
LOL! Who would take your trade? Trading is actually a good deal Just make sure you get all the money. It's better since you don't get killed or robbed trying to sell yours. And what do you drive til you sell it, most people can't afford two vehicles. Plus you can save up to $2 thousand on the total price of the new car when you trade rather than buy straight out. You only pay tax on the difference! T-A-X-E-S! Where would you go to look and test and select model and equipment? Who would service it? Who would repair it? Who would do warrenty warranty repair and required maint? Where would you get parts? Further the lack of certified mechanics would be a nightmare. All vehicles are different and a dealerships mechanics soon learn exactly why a vehicle is doing what is doing or not doing. And 88% of people need auto financing. And half of those do not qualify for standard manufacturer financing. They need a dealer to supply secondary financing. And half of that half have horrible credit and need a dealer to use his expertise and connections to "put the deal together" in crafty and unconventional ways. Tesla came out with that BS but it has been a nightmare for buyer and seller. They are now putting up dealership in places. Some people lived a thousand miles from a dealership and wound up parking their cars rather than shipping the cars by truck and paying a couple thousand there and back.
Posted by TH03
Mogadishu
Member since Dec 2008
172004 posts
Posted on 2/5/19 at 11:25 am to
quote:

The three tier system of liquor is the biggest house of cards in the US today.


It's a joke in some instances. Certain distributors are basically just subsidiaries for big boys like bud or Miller Coors.
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 2/5/19 at 11:52 am to
quote:

LOL! Who would take your trade? Trading is actually a good deal Just make sure you get all the money. It's better since you don't get killed or robbed trying to sell yours. And what do you drive til you sell it, most people can't afford two vehicle


Trades to the manufacturer could work just like selling a car online today, you send some pics and VIN of your car to them, they make the a offer, if you accept they pick up your trade in car when your new car is delivered.
Posted by TSLG
Member since Mar 2014
6724 posts
Posted on 2/5/19 at 12:16 pm to
quote:

And half of that half have horrible credit and need a dealer to use his expertise and connections to "put the deal together" in crafty and unconventional ways.


Is that code for forging a poi?
Posted by saint tiger225
San Diego
Member since Jan 2011
49201 posts
Posted on 2/5/19 at 12:22 pm to
quote:

jimdog
Found the used car salesman.
Posted by deeprig9
Unincorporated Ozora
Member since Sep 2012
76083 posts
Posted on 2/5/19 at 12:22 pm to
quote:

Tesla came out with that BS but it has been a nightmare for buyer and seller.


My inlaws finally took delivery of theirs about 6 weeks ago. They said the process was smooth and straight forward.

quote:

They are now putting up dealership in places.


This is the first I heard of it. I googled it, and google hasn't heard of it either.

Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
74547 posts
Posted on 2/5/19 at 12:28 pm to
Just do it like Johnny Cash. Get you a job at the factory and get it one piece at a time.
Posted by DBAG DREW
Member since Feb 2018
141 posts
Posted on 2/5/19 at 12:32 pm to
Found the dealership employee.
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