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re: Worlds largest chipmaker will move operations to Arizona

Posted on 4/8/24 at 12:31 pm to
Posted by No Colors
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Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 4/8/24 at 12:31 pm to
TSMC is basically acknowledging the inevitable -- that Taiwan will eventually get absorbed into China. I don't think it will happen militarily. Rather they will basically just take it like they did HK, with a long series of internal and external political moves that result in Taiwan "Agreeing" to become part of China.

I am gonna guess this takes something like 20 years. Or maybe 15. So TSMC has until about 2040 to get it's most advanced plants and people off the island. Fair enough. I am sure the engineers are happy to relocate to the US. And we are happy to have them here. And it brings billions in revenue and hundreds of thousands of jobs eventually.

Plus we secure access to the world's best chips for the foreseeable future.

What's not to like?
Posted by Geauxldilocks
Member since Aug 2018
2450 posts
Posted on 4/8/24 at 12:31 pm to
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Huge W for the Biden administration
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That you (assuming you actually pay taxes) are paying for.
Posted by RedFoxx
New Orleans, LA
Member since Jan 2009
6010 posts
Posted on 4/8/24 at 12:33 pm to
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I’ll keep getting mine from Gramercy, thanks


My mind went to potato chips first.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
37559 posts
Posted on 4/8/24 at 12:33 pm to
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stuff we weren't doing 2016-2020.


Why stop at 2016? Were we doing this stuff before 2016? I’m pretty sure we are doing stuff we never did before to get the manufacturers here.

And to be fair, the pandemic and the shutdown by China made a lot of companies much more interested in being in the US than in China controlled regions.
Posted by wheelr
Member since Jul 2012
5147 posts
Posted on 4/8/24 at 12:34 pm to
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The first, which is also in Arizona and was announced in 2020 under the Trump administration


I had no idea this began under the Trump admin.

I've been thinking of voting 3rd party but this has me re-thinking my plan.
Posted by Corinthians420
Iowa
Member since Jun 2022
6677 posts
Posted on 4/8/24 at 12:34 pm to
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Check the stock purchases of Congress. I bet they are chip heavy.

hell they probably have been buying them up the past week.
Posted by bad93ex
Member since Sep 2018
27286 posts
Posted on 4/8/24 at 12:42 pm to
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hell they probably have been buying them up the past week


That shite has got to stop, I read recently that AOC’s net worth is up to like $26M already even though just a few years ago she was a bartender.
Posted by dnm3305
Member since Feb 2009
13600 posts
Posted on 4/8/24 at 12:57 pm to
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I highly doubt you know more about this subject than I do


Yea? But I know more about canned cheese than you. I know where they get the can. I know where they get the tips. Hell, I even know where they keep the cows making the fake cheese. I also know where they hide all that cheddar.

How does that make you feel, motherfricker?
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
49510 posts
Posted on 4/8/24 at 1:03 pm to
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That shite has got to stop, I read recently that AOC’s net worth is up to like $26M already even though just a few years ago she was a bartender.


A few years ago she couldn't afford rent in DC.
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
South Florida
Member since Apr 2010
30182 posts
Posted on 4/8/24 at 1:07 pm to
Is the Big Guy getting his 10%?
Posted by soccerfüt
Location: A Series of Tubes
Member since May 2013
65782 posts
Posted on 4/8/24 at 1:10 pm to
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I’ll keep getting mine from Gramercy, thanks.
UTZ you, too soon brah.

Posted by olgoi khorkhoi
priapism survivor
Member since May 2011
14871 posts
Posted on 4/8/24 at 1:14 pm to
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I highly doubt you know more about this subject than I do





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Difference is we will actually build it now.




So knowledgeable. Someone hasn't been to Phoenix lately.
Posted by lsusa
Doing Missionary work for LSU
Member since Oct 2005
4611 posts
Posted on 4/8/24 at 1:14 pm to
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That shite has got to stop, I read recently that AOC’s net worth is up to like $26M already even though just a few years ago she was a bartender.


It is absolutely ridiculous. Don’t care which side of the aisle they sit on.
Posted by tigersmanager
Member since Jun 2010
7428 posts
Posted on 4/8/24 at 1:16 pm to
Thanks Donald
Posted by Mushroom1968
Member since Jun 2023
1605 posts
Posted on 4/8/24 at 1:22 pm to
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The first, which is also in Arizona and was announced in 2020 under the Trump administration


Damn, had no idea Trump was the reason for all this until this thread. Looks like we are all voting for him.
Posted by Sheep
Neither here nor there
Member since Jun 2007
19516 posts
Posted on 4/8/24 at 1:24 pm to
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I've been thinking of voting 3rd party


Subtle "I'm a vaccine truther" drop
Posted by jeffsdad
Member since Mar 2007
21461 posts
Posted on 4/8/24 at 1:59 pm to
Operational by 2030.

I guess joey is in a really big hurry.
Posted by Tmcgin
BATON ROUGE
Member since Jun 2010
5020 posts
Posted on 4/8/24 at 2:03 pm to
Chip makers this size consume LAKES of water daily
What does Arizona not have a lot of???
This is crazy
Posted by beachdude
FL
Member since Nov 2008
5656 posts
Posted on 4/8/24 at 2:12 pm to
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Someone hasn’t been to Phoenix lately.


Right. Didn’t Intel recently start the largest capital investment in Arizona history to build facilities to make chips, specifically in competition with this very Taiwanese company?
Posted by Steadyhands
Slightly above I-10
Member since May 2016
6818 posts
Posted on 4/8/24 at 2:26 pm to
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Because Im not going to argue with someone who knows jack about all we've had to done to ensure chips are built here, TSMC, ASML, NVIDIA and AMD will build chips here because we've made that possible, stuff we weren't doing 2016-2020.


Lol, right this is all thanks to the Biden administration and Biden. We should all vote for him now. Why even try to make this political? How about be thankful for some chip manufacturing increasing at home and at the same time we can focus on getting a better president in office?
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