re: Workout board - Weight/Fat loss help

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i skip leg day on the regular

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He doesn't need a workout app. Most are bullshite routines with a few exceptions. Those being stronglifts and strengthcalc.


He has never really worked out before. How is he suppose to know what exercise to do? How is he suppose to know if he keeping the proper balance of extensors and flexors when working out? He needs an app to give him a simple beginner workout to learn the basics. Hopefully he builds his knowledge base as he goes. There is nothing that puts ppl in the orthopedics surgeon or sports medicine office faster than someone new to exercise trying to do it own their own (other than P90X, orthopdic surgeons love P90X).


I told him a program to do. The apps are bullshite, find a great beginner program like greyskull, stronglifts, or starting strength and do what the program says. No app needed.


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He doesn't need to do weight loss workouts. He should lift heavy to preserve muscle maybe even gain some while


Lifting heavy does not preserve muscle mass anymore efficiently than moderate lifting. What degrades muscle mass when you are fasting is amino acid deficit. The body is going to breakdown muscle for amino acids to produce glucose to meet caloric demand. However if he has adequate protein intake than they will be free amino acids so it won't have to or will replace any amino acid loss. Plus if you start out lifting heavy you will be so damn sore that you quit. Do you learn how to swim by jumping off a boat 10 miles offshore or learn to drive by starting off on I-10 in Baton Rouge rush hour traffic? No, you start off slow and work your way up. The OP also said he wanted to loss weight and was tired of his clothes fitting tight. If he followed your advice did not injure himself or quit because of the soreness he would add muscle mass faster underneath the fat. That would push the fat out and make his clothes tighter which is the opposite of what the OP wanted.

Jesus christ you went off the deepend here. On all these programs I suggested he would start lift and work up. and the muscle would push the fat out? really

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Also fasted morning walks are best for stripping fat and preserving muscle.


Any morning aerobic or cardio exercise gets the metabolism going. Since the morning exercise is usually before any major meal is eaten (I like a granola bar before my morning workout just to keep the hunger pains down) and the body has used alot of glycogen during the overnight fast so it has to breakdown fat to get glucose to power the muscles and the rest of the body.


Agree 100% except with the granola bar thing. We are 1005 on the same page here

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4. Do a minimum of 20 minutes of cardio/day. I prefer the ellipitcal but that is because a treadmill hurts my bad knee from football.

Why does he need to do this? What is the point? please tell me your BS reasoning.


So you question my 20 minutes of cardio/day but tell me that a morning walk is the best way to burn fat? A morning walk is cardio or aerobic exercise.

Again on the same page but doing 20 min of cardio just to do it is what i was disagreeing with. It needs to be fasted in the morning to aid fat loss or it should be Hiit, other than that cardio is kind of a waste unless its your thing.

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heart health? Guess whats way better for heart health.....5 min of burpees or a 4 min tabata session. Your post is Pure BS


Is that why the American Heart Association, my medical textbooks, and every course I took to get my kinesiology degree suggest 20 minutes of cardio exercise/day for heart health? I guess some internet badass knows better the aunch of cardiologists, the writers of medical textbooks, and a professors that have PhDs in kinesiology?

Guess what all of that is based off of bullshite science. the American Heart Association still thinks fat is bad for you and margarine is better for you than grass fed butter. WTF do they know?

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learn about healthy southern eating. Again all he needs is a slight deficit and to make his macros fit. all the other shite is just that bullshite. Guess what most of what you learned in school is complete bullshite also.


Really a 40 year old with a history or beer and pizza consumption doesn't need to eat healthy? You are the one that is spewing bullshite.

No he needs to understand his macros and meet those. Period. Everything else is BS until he gets to a decently low bf %

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This I agree with but if you are drinking 2 beers every day than you are an alcoholic and have bigger problems than just getting fit. Limit alcohol to 1 day a week period and if you go crazy than fast the next day.


2 beers per day for a male (1 for female) actually has positive benefits. If you go over 2 beers per day then you undo all those positive benefits.

Not for those trying to build muscle or lose fat

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There is some good news when it comes to drinking a moderate amount of beer every day. According to a 2008 article published in "Biofactors," drinking a moderate amount can reduce the risk of heart disease. The compounds in the hops used to make beer can help lower your cholesterol levels and risk of hardening of the arteries, two risk factors for a heart attack. Moderate intake of beer can also boost bone mineral density, notes a 2009 article published in the "American Journal of Clinical Nutrition." A 2010 article published in the "Journal of the European Academy of Dermatology and Venereology" reports that certain compounds in hops might also help prevent skin cancer and other skin disorders.
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Sorry I do not think drinking beer everyday is good for somebody. Just my opinion

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Getting a baseline is a good thing but the blood work is by far the most important part of this. Oh and most doctors are stupid as frick when it comes to working out, nutrition and losing weight.


Did I tell him to get workout or nutritional advice from his doctor? No I just said get a physical because he is 40 and has BMI of 27. BMI is a bullshite statistic if his blood work and physical come back good, but if there is a problem being overweight is risk factor that he needs to get down now. The whole reason for the weight loss or getting in shape is because of his kids so he should get a physical so he know his overall health outlook.

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8. Do everything in moderation

This is bullshite. Complete bullshite.


Really how is it bullshite?

Drinking too much beer makes you fat and does damage to your liver, but drinking 1-2 beers per day is good for your heart
Eating too much fast food is unhealthy but moderate indulgence can be a nice stress reliever and family building experience (i.e. pizza and movie night or fridays)
Workout is good, but if you overtrain (and yes it is a real thing) you will injure yourself

So how is moderation a bad thing?



i was talking more in line of moderation in lifting, which is BS

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High intensity exercise burns calories, improves heart function, HDL:LDL ratio, and builds muscle but it does not have the insulin sensitivity effect. That is why you need both.

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In contrast, all the exercise groups significantly (P < 0.05) increased SI; the relative increment in the low-volume/moderate-intensity and high-volume/high-intensity groups (~85%) were greater than in the low-volume/high-intensity group (~40%).

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