re: Woman Shot, Killed After Aiming Gun at Biker She Intentionally Hit With Her Car

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"She swerved into him and prior to the vehicle making impact he warned her to stay away, and he is pulling away and she gets to the side of him and comes right into him."

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I'm sure he asked nicely. There is absolutely no way that a needledick biker would ever instigate an incident like this.

Whaddaya expect from ButtCheese?
He seems triggered by justice.

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What about when she walked out of her house pointing a gun at him?

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If three wanna be Hells Angels followed me home and didn't leave, I'd probably come outside with a gun too.

followed her

Oh okay.

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they never attempted to enter quit making assumptions stick to the facts

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Never said they did. I stated from her own perspective and how she may have felt. Can you really not understand the difference here? I was never stating facts. Only stating how she may have felt threatened. She may have thought she could scare them away before it got worse. Obviously wrong decision. However, they met on her property. They should not have gone that far. Especially if they all had guns. That's just asking to escalate things.

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no they followed her while on the phone with the police

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Again, in her mind she has no idea of what they are doing or their intentions. You really can't comprehend how someone might perceive things differently than you? I am not stating anything as fact. I am simply stating she may have felt threatened herself.

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again they followed her not chased her

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You really don't think it's a bit scary when multiple people are coming after you and one is likely a pissed off road rage biker? You really really really don't think that's a scary situation for a woman? Regardless if you agree with her coming out versus staying in. She was proactive and obviously it did not go well. They could have easily been scared off.

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so now you are saying you knew what their intentions were? You can read people’s minds?
Your choice of words can be extremely misleading. That’s typically what those on the left do though.

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Never once said that. What the frick man? You can disagree without making things up. I then gave my own perspective and how I might see. Therefore it's easy to see someone COULD feel threatened and want to try to get them off their property before it escalates differently. Obviously it didn't work out well.

Never once said I could read minds. You are being just as extreme as someone on the left. And you are making it political. It's truly a shame people can't just consider all sides to something. It's always clear cut for people like you. I am not stating I know how she felt. Only that I could see how she might feel.

Can you really not see the difference there? It's fine if you feel they are justified. I disagree with their actions and I wish she was around to tell her side.

Extreme people on either side are so narrow minded. So she comes out with her weapon telling them to leave means she deserves to be gunned down. I'm sorry I just don't feel that justifies it. And now she doesn't get to tell her side of the story. And as long as you are on the phone with police while being on someone else's property it's okay to blast them if the come out with a weapon telling you to get off their property?

The woman is heard on the background of the call saying to leave her alone. I think they should have left her alone at that point.

I'm interested about the other two guys that joined in following her. If they had guns as well and if they have any connection with the biker.

Sorry for trying to provide a different perspective and you can't understand it's just a thought. I never once said anything as facts. I just like to learn more about what went down outside of the people "following" her.

You really don't think three people following you to your house after you may have intentionally or unintentionally bumped them is a cause for concern? You can't see a fellow conservative (since you made it political) wanting to come out and defend their property from these guys with a guy and warnings to leave? There is no way for her to know if they were together or not either.

And you really don't think what may have caused it all is important? Again, what if he threatened her life? Again, WHAT IF* not a fact. An idea. Maybe she wasn't in a position to call police. For a number of reasons. Or maybe she felt she made a mistake and wanted to just get away. Dude I have no idea, but I sure would like to know all of what went down before just rushing to judge either way.

My own feeling is that it's not worth "following" anyone. Get their tags, description, address if you must. However, road rage is not worth pursuing someone over, IMO. For either side. She told them to leave, they refused and this guy absolutely lit her up.

She is screaming leave me alone and he shoots her several times. She wasn't even making threats towards them. Not that this matters! Don't go twisting it. It's just observation. She was in the middle of questioning why 3 of them were coming to her home. Which further shows me she had concerns. She should have a right to defend herself as well. Especially on her own property.

Just because I have questions and am trying to understand how she might have had her own concerns does not mean I am some lefty liberal. I am sorry I think it's a little fricked up that someone stating leave me alone gets blasted outside of her own home in front of her mother. If you want to disagree that's cool. Don't quote me as stating facts when I was giving ideas and opinions.

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So that gives him the okay to blast her away in that manner?

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No, walking out of her house absolutely does not give them the right to shoot her.

Her pointing a gun at them does, however.

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So it would have been okay if the McCloskeys were blasted?

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Was a gun pointed at them? Terrible comparison

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Sounds like they all had guns according to biker boy. She was telling them to leave her alone and biker boy blasts her.

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Don't forget the gun part, she wasn't just telling them to leave her alone. They stopped outside of her house and were on the phone with police. There is nothing to suggest they were being hostile or aggressive at the time. If they were, they likely wouldn't be saying they don't expect charges for the shooter.

Damn son. You get paid by the character?

If they were armed with CC and pulled onto her property, I’d be fine with minor charges. They were looking for trouble in that situation. I don’t have an issue following someone until they stop so you can call the police, but give them space down the street and keep your eyes on them.

If they pulled up to her house, you really don’t know what they are going to do.

I’d also be very curious to understand what exactly happened to cause this. A large portion of the time road rage is escalated by both sides to some degree.

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The only scenario I could see that she instigated is if she was texting while driving (in which case, frick her) and accidentally swerved into them. On no planet could I picture a pregnant woman by herself deciding it would be fun to instigate a fight with three bikers.

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There are multiple witnesses who say she struck the dude on the motorcycle intentionally.

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She fricked around, she found out.

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No, she possibly intentionally committed a hit and run, obvious POS act if true.

Then attempted to possibly defend herself from a crazy bunch of dudes following her to her house, which is her castle.

Like I said, these are two separate incidents and both unfortunate. They'll be charged with something, she's dead so obviously that's the end of her part.

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Then attempted to possibly defend herself from a crazy bunch of dudes following her to her house, which is her castle.

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If they were a crazy bunch of dudes doing a crazy bunch of things that made it reasonable for to pull a gun on them, don't you think they'd likely to be charged?

We know they were on the phone with 911 when she came out with the gun. We know they aren't likely to be charged with a crime. The reasonable assumption here is they weren't doing a bunch of crazy biker stuff outside of her house when she came out with a gun.