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re: Woman Shot Dead as Mob Overran Capitol ID’ed as QAnon supporting 14-year Air Force Vet

Posted on 1/7/21 at 8:20 am to
Posted by HogBalls
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 1/7/21 at 8:20 am to
SAY HER NAME!
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
85430 posts
Posted on 1/7/21 at 8:25 am to
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Did any of those protesters get shot and killed?


No. They were allowed in because it was a public hearing.

None of them tried to break through a barricaded door.

Over 300 of them were arrested though.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
53509 posts
Posted on 1/7/21 at 8:28 am to
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I'm surprised more of them were not shot


The police looked incredibly unprepared for this. I'm looking forward to that investigation.
Posted by LSUJML
Central
Member since May 2008
51974 posts
Posted on 1/7/21 at 8:36 am to
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The police looked incredibly unprepared for this. I'm looking forward to that investigation.


Just had an EMT on Newsmax
He wasn’t working at Capitol but somewhere close & said they were completely unprepared for yesterday
Posted by Bestbank Tiger
Premium Member
Member since Jan 2005
79453 posts
Posted on 1/7/21 at 8:53 am to
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Four dead


Tin soldiers and Biden comin'...
Posted by Mordecai225
Member since Mar 2017
143 posts
Posted on 1/7/21 at 8:56 am to
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Woman tweets bat shite stuff They are making her out to be crazy!!!!


She was crazy. We need some reciprocity here folks, anytime a person of color is killed we pull up tweets and photos to remove that “angel” persona that the media puts on but now that the media is reporting it straight up and down, they’re making her out to be something she’s not? C’mon people.
Posted by fr33manator
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2010
133637 posts
Posted on 1/7/21 at 8:58 am to
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Tin soldiers and Biden comin'...

All owned by the CCP,
Dark winter and angry young men,
4 dead in Old DC.
Posted by winkchance
St. George, LA
Member since Jul 2016
6175 posts
Posted on 1/7/21 at 9:22 am to
Is that the same person? The picture I saw was of a reddish haired girl not a brunette. I also thought it happened behind the window that is behind the speakers chair.

Posted by The Implication
south philly
Member since Sep 2019
527 posts
Posted on 1/7/21 at 9:23 am to
Man in horned helmet



Some of her colleagues.
Posted by FieldMink
Fort Worth
Member since Jul 2017
797 posts
Posted on 1/7/21 at 9:28 am to
They told her along with everyone else to back down and leave. She decided to climb up and thru the window. Her being a VET that worked SECURITY if im not mistaken should've known better. And now she's a victim of her own demise. She even flew from Cali to Washington just to riot and do dumb things.

You play stupid games, you win stupid prizes.
Posted by UptownnMike
Uptown New Orleans
Member since Aug 2015
4127 posts
Posted on 1/7/21 at 9:31 am to
Life is a two way street unfortunately.
This post was edited on 1/7/21 at 9:33 am
Posted by Janky
Team Primo
Member since Jun 2011
35957 posts
Posted on 1/7/21 at 9:34 am to
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They told her along with everyone else to back down and leave. She decided to climb up and thru the window. Her being a VET that worked SECURITY if im not mistaken should've known better. And now she's a victim of her own demise. She even flew from Cali to Washington just to riot and do dumb things.

You play stupid games, you win stupid prizes.


What a shitty take.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Cochise County AZ
Member since Jul 2009
37619 posts
Posted on 1/7/21 at 9:50 am to
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She broke into the capital while congress was in session... I’m surprised more weren’t killed and would have been fine with it. What would you expect to happen if you appear to be threatening the lives of some of the highest people in our government?
Truth. These people were handled with kid gloves compared to what could have happened.
Posted by dallastigers
Member since Dec 2003
9644 posts
Posted on 1/7/21 at 10:05 am to
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quote:
and especially grouping in those that didn’t do anything illegal but just showed up


Yeah and again...this goes both ways

if you tried to bring this type of nuance to the discussion around the riots over the summer here, you would have been shouted down and called an ANTIFA supporter



So what kind of nuance did you bring to these types of discussions?
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
30047 posts
Posted on 1/7/21 at 10:11 am to
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Truth. These people were handled with kid gloves compared to what could have happened.


This may have actually lead to her ill-fated choice. They had basically been allowed in and to walk around with seemingly little attempt to get them out. While the officer and possibly other LEOs on the other side of the barricaded door may have seen it as "the line" she apparently saw it as just another hallway to walk down. I think it is clear there would be a doorway or point where the interlopers would have been stopped by any means possible, they were not going to let them walk up and say hi to Pence, etc.

The officer by himself or via orders had decided that door was the line that changed the ROE. I think it is clear she didn't not recognize that. In my mind, she made a poor decision but if the line hadn't been there it seems likely the group would have continued closer and closer to the inner sanctum until the either recognized the line or someone made the same mistake. Right or wrong if I am the one guy at that roadblock with the weight of protecting the VP and the entire legislative branch behind me I may have made the same choice. It is a horrible outcome but it may have prevented an even larger scale tragedy.
Posted by QJenk
Atl, Ga
Member since Jan 2013
17264 posts
Posted on 1/7/21 at 10:16 am to
I just can't believe how unprepared DC and Capital police were. This was a public protest that was planned for over a month now, surely they knew about it. Or did they never figure that Republican protestors would ever get violent.

In any case, I hate she was killed, but I can't say it was a bad shoot. She was actively trying to break through a barricaded door. She was trying to jump through the window when she already had guns pointed at them. For anyone who has ever been on Capitol Hill, there is security for every entrance for every building there. This was a collosal breach of security here. The VP, Speaker, and many other top government officials were in that building. If any of those government officials were behind that barricade, it's even less of a surprise that deadly force was used.
Posted by QJenk
Atl, Ga
Member since Jan 2013
17264 posts
Posted on 1/7/21 at 10:23 am to
These are my thoughts. I think some people think they would be able to just run up on Pence or Nancy to express their frustrations, yell about the election, etc. But there was absolute zero chance of that ever happening without security intervening. Zero.
Posted by Funky Tide 8
Bayou Chico
Member since Feb 2009
56048 posts
Posted on 1/7/21 at 10:23 am to
Yeah, you can't say that someone like Jacob Blake had it coming, and then say that Babbitt didn't. That is hypocrisy.

One stupid, but unsurprising narrative that I've seen is the idea that if it would've been people of color going into the capitol that things would've gone differently, as if a white woman didn't get shot in the fricking neck and killed.
This post was edited on 1/7/21 at 10:29 am
Posted by DivotBreath
On the course
Member since Oct 2007
3707 posts
Posted on 1/7/21 at 10:40 am to
So she was climbing through a broken window . . . but there are no allegations that she was brandishing anything that even resembled a weapon, correct?
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
85430 posts
Posted on 1/7/21 at 10:45 am to
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So she was climbing through a broken window .


just any old broken window, eh?
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