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With so many kids in private, should system be flush with $?

Posted on 12/5/21 at 4:34 pm
Posted by Nature Boy
Negatiger
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Posted on 12/5/21 at 4:34 pm
Everybody pays the same taxes, yet a huge chunk of the population pays on top of that for private schools. Seems like the system should have far more money per child flowing in than needed, and therefore money should never be an issue and performance should reflect that.

What would be the result if even 75-80% of EBR kids actually attended the public schools they pay for already? Seems like it would be utterly insolvent.
This post was edited on 12/5/21 at 7:38 pm
Posted by SG_Geaux
Beautiful St George, LA
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 12/5/21 at 4:37 pm to
Posted by johnnyrocket
Ghetto once known as Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2013
9790 posts
Posted on 12/5/21 at 4:39 pm to
I see more kids in those privately ran charter schools than I see in the EBRPSS.

Posted by Seuqnoc
Lafayette
Member since Jul 2020
562 posts
Posted on 12/5/21 at 4:41 pm to
You expecting elected officials to do the right thing with the money they collect from taxes? You must be new here.
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
51870 posts
Posted on 12/5/21 at 4:41 pm to
EBR pays a huge amount per pupil.
Posted by tigercross
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 12/5/21 at 4:43 pm to
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Everybody pays the same taxes


What? False premise.

The people who send their kids to private schools pay the vast majority of taxes in the parish. The people who send their kids to EBR public school typically pay very little in taxes
This post was edited on 12/5/21 at 4:45 pm
Posted by Impotent Waffle
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2007
10071 posts
Posted on 12/5/21 at 4:44 pm to
Lets see a useless Superintendent who had to hire another dude to even qualify for the board. Along with a ridiculously childish and corrupt board. Cant imagine where all that money is going?
Posted by tigersfan1989
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2018
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Posted on 12/5/21 at 4:45 pm to
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Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
59582 posts
Posted on 12/5/21 at 4:47 pm to
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What would be the result is even 75-80% of EBR kinda actually attended the public schools they pay for already? Seems like it would be utterly insolvent


You are right.

When you compare private school performance to public school performance, recognize that public schools are funded better, and recognize that their funding is further subsidized by those that choose to attend private, you realize how much of an utter failure public education is.

And, those within public education have zero understanding of it. They don't recognize the problem.
Posted by Adam Banks
District 5
Member since Sep 2009
34756 posts
Posted on 12/5/21 at 4:58 pm to
Let me introduce you to the proposed utopia of st George. Public schools that you can send your kids to and feel like you can actually see the results of your tax dollars.


Voted on and approved by the people. The most American and democratic thing.


Then the left has tried to shut it down.
Posted by tigergirl10
Member since Jul 2019
10462 posts
Posted on 12/5/21 at 5:21 pm to
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how much of an utter failure public education
Can’t be too bad. I graduated from public school and received a six figure free ride to Loyola and Tulane.
Posted by tigersbb
Member since Oct 2012
11716 posts
Posted on 12/5/21 at 5:44 pm to
quote:

What would be the result is even 75-80% of EBR kinda actually attended the public schools they pay for already? Seems like it would be utterly insolvent.


Public schools receive state allocations on a per enrollment basis which I believe is determined on September 1. The individual parishes can set the tax collection which is allocated to schools in addition to state funding.
Posted by Dandanthegreatest
Metry
Member since Oct 2016
99 posts
Posted on 12/5/21 at 5:48 pm to
One would assume that the public schools are getting more money with less students. But in fact, public schools receive funding according to the number of students that are enrolled in the system on October 1st. The reason most private schools perform better is because of parent involvement. Those parents give a frick and put their children in a better environment. I teach in the public schools and put my all of my kids in private or charter schools.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
40348 posts
Posted on 12/5/21 at 5:52 pm to
Cash is not the problem, Sone here ran a per student comparison of the EBRSS with good Texas public school systems and we spent thousands more per student than did the Texas schools.

If private schools closed it would be a disaster here
Posted by HarryBalzack
Member since Oct 2012
16003 posts
Posted on 12/5/21 at 6:09 pm to
Not from LA, but in most states the legislature sends what's called an FTE unit (a block of funds) for a set number of students (usually lower elementary and higher for secondary). For example, 24 kids = 1 FTE unit for elementary schools; 30 kids = 1 FTE unit for secondary schools. That money, plus any ad valorem millage/sales tax percentage collected locally, pays for the school, but the FTE unit usually comprises the majority portion of the funding. That's why the schools used to have a shitfit about everyone being there during the first six weeks or so of school: those attendance numbers are what the state was using to determine funding.

What that means is that when people send their kids to private schools the state keeps the money that they would have allocated for their instruction. In a perfect world the legislature would either lower the tax rate or increase the FTE funding to adjust for that, but like the saying goes, no man's life, liberty, or property is safe while the legislature is in session.
Posted by Miketheseventh
Member since Dec 2017
6534 posts
Posted on 12/5/21 at 6:14 pm to
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Can’t be too bad. I graduated from public school and received a six figure free ride to Loyola and Tulane.

You are an exception to the fact. People can definitely succeed in public schools if they are willing to apply themselves. The sad part like I said. You are the exception
Posted by HarryBalzack
Member since Oct 2012
16003 posts
Posted on 12/5/21 at 6:15 pm to
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The reason most private schools perform better is because of parent involvement. Those parents give a frick and put their children in a better environment. I teach in the public schools and put my all of my kids in private or charter schools.
And the parents who have the money to put their kids in private school have more money, as a general rule, because they have more going on between the ears than other folks. The fruit doesn't fall far from the tree. That's a broad generality, mind you. I taught millionaire's kids who were blithering idiots and coal miners' kids who were sharp as a tack, but the general outline of the description holds.
Posted by Godzilla
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2009
416 posts
Posted on 12/5/21 at 6:28 pm to
EBR has one of the highest $/student in their budget as compared to other school districts. Last I saw it was about $12K per student per year.

The issue isn’t lack of funds.
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
60853 posts
Posted on 12/5/21 at 6:39 pm to
Jefferson Parish until about 5-6 years ago had around 33% of their kids in private schools. It sure did seem like that would help with the funding situation per pupil, but I see some folks have shared some info in the thread that I didn't know about in regards to how funding works.

The parental involvement is still the most important factor in kids doing well in school.
Posted by ducktale
Member since Sep 2021
1531 posts
Posted on 12/5/21 at 7:42 pm to
quote:

Everybody pays the same taxes


Completely and utterly false.
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