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re: With Disney dying on a hill for the LGBTQ+abcdlmnop people, is Universal making bank?

Posted on 4/21/22 at 8:48 am to
Posted by ell_13
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Posted on 4/21/22 at 8:48 am to
It’s apparently less rare than most people though based on the outrage it has gotten from the left. It’s obviously harmless based on that fact alone.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 4/21/22 at 8:48 am to
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What do you mean by “screening?” You don’t think teachers can address parental abuse when they suspect it?

I mean this bill gives parents the options of preventing the guidance counselor from talking to a kid even if the kid wants/needs to talk to them for ANY issue, not just one of a sexual nature
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 4/21/22 at 8:48 am to
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This entire bill is over something that is very, very rare.


Apparently not judging by the tenacious resistance. Or is that just because it’s something Desantis could get a win with?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 4/21/22 at 8:48 am to
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This entire bill is over something that is very, very rare.

Then why are progressives throwing a fit?

We save a couple of poor kids from indoctrination, and nothing else changes. WHy protest?

The revolution, is why, comrade.
This post was edited on 4/21/22 at 8:50 am
Posted by LSUcajun77
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2008
24370 posts
Posted on 4/21/22 at 8:48 am to
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Focus hard on hot button issues that really don't matter,


Like not saying boys and girls in a greeting?

Not sure your point, but some people have decided not to cave into encouraging mental illness.
Every kid that walks through those gates is a boy or a girl. Disney chose the hill. Normal society chose to say frick off with your fairy tale thinking.
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 4/21/22 at 8:49 am to
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This entire bill is over something that is very, very rare.


which is what makes the massive backlash to it so alarming.

The backlash is what drove me to support the bill.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 4/21/22 at 8:50 am to
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No K-3 student has this on their mind unless it’s being brought up to them by someone.


In comprehensive sex education programs that include elementary age kids they aren’t talking about sex like you do in HS sex ed. They’re talking about appropriate/inappropriate contact and basic biology (names of body parts).

An issue that comes up in investigating sexual abuse in kids that age is they’re not taught what is/isn’t appropriate touching because good majority of the people abusing them are parents/relatives/family friends who control that narrative.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46207 posts
Posted on 4/21/22 at 8:51 am to
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The backlash is what drove me to support the bill.



It's the exact same thing as the massive leftist backlash against anti-CRT legislation.

They insist it's not being taught in schools, yet scream bloody fricking murder when legislation is passed to keep it out of schools.

Funny that.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 4/21/22 at 8:51 am to
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The backlash is what drove me to support the bill.


Exactly. They're lying as usual. This is just to push the Alphabet people stuff, not to help kids.

The backlash pretty much proves it.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
88021 posts
Posted on 4/21/22 at 8:51 am to
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Usually abuse is notified through the guidance counselor, and now parents can opt out and their child will be prevented from going to the guidance counselor
Again, you’re wrong. If a student wants to engage a guidance counselor, he or she can still do that. The guidance counselor is then in position to engage other authorities as appropriate. Same with the teacher. The opt out doesn’t mean these kids get locked away with zero access to these resources. It’s just what the resources can do in terms of counseling.
Posted by Sun God
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Posted on 4/21/22 at 8:51 am to
tSpleen wishes he could delete that post
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 4/21/22 at 8:52 am to
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you don’t think there are abused 5-10 year olds with sexual things on their mind?


What does abuse have to do with anything?
Posted by BluegrassBelle
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Member since Nov 2010
108047 posts
Posted on 4/21/22 at 8:54 am to
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Schools are not the proper authority.


School staff in most states are considered mandatory reporters and can be criminally charged/fined if they neglect to report.

If a school counselor is unable to question a student, then that will lead to a lot of premature calls to CHFS that will further overwhelm the system and will likely lead to parents threatening to sue over an overzealous report.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111522 posts
Posted on 4/21/22 at 8:56 am to
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Again, you’re wrong. If a student wants to engage a guidance counselor, he or she can still do that.
No, no I’m not. Look at the wording of the bill

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At the beginning of the school year, each school district shall notify parents of each healthcare service offered at their student’s school and the option to withhold consent or decline any specific service.
That leaves the option for the parents to refuse any guidance counselor from talking to their kid without consent. So exactly how does the child report or talk to the guidance counselor now about abuse from home?
This post was edited on 4/21/22 at 8:59 am
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 4/21/22 at 8:58 am to
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School staff in most states are considered mandatory reporters


Correct.

KIndergarten teachers are not child sex specialists nor are they law enforcement. Teachers do what they have always done and forward abuse complaints to proper authorities, which teachers are not one.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 4/21/22 at 8:59 am to
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They insist it's not being taught in schools, yet scream bloody fricking murder when legislation is passed to keep it out of schools.

Funny that.


Yeah..
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
111522 posts
Posted on 4/21/22 at 8:59 am to
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KIndergarten teachers are not child sex specialists nor are they law enforcement. Teachers do what they have always done and forward abuse complaints to proper authorities, which teachers are not one.

And how do they receives these abuse complaints now that the parents have the opportunity to refuse the children from speaking with the guidance counselor?
Posted by Tigerbait357
Member since Jun 2011
71125 posts
Posted on 4/21/22 at 9:00 am to
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What does abuse have to do with anything?


They are grasping at straws now since they ran out of arguments
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 4/21/22 at 9:02 am to
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That leaves the option for the parents to refuse any guidance counselor



Guidance counselors are not abuse experts.

If a kid tells a teacher they've been abused, the process can go like it always goes and forward that to people who have actual investigative knowledge.
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 4/21/22 at 9:02 am to
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If a school counselor is unable to question a student, then that will lead to a lot of premature calls to CHFS that will further overwhelm the system
if that is the biggest problem, it is not compelling

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will likely lead to parents threatening to sue over an overzealous report.
you can sue over anything. Likelihood of frivolous lawsuits is not compelling.
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