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re: With Disney dying on a hill for the LGBTQ+abcdlmnop people, is Universal making bank?
Posted on 4/21/22 at 8:48 am to The Spleen
Posted on 4/21/22 at 8:48 am to The Spleen
It’s apparently less rare than most people though based on the outrage it has gotten from the left. It’s obviously harmless based on that fact alone.
Posted on 4/21/22 at 8:48 am to ell_13
quote:I mean this bill gives parents the options of preventing the guidance counselor from talking to a kid even if the kid wants/needs to talk to them for ANY issue, not just one of a sexual nature
What do you mean by “screening?” You don’t think teachers can address parental abuse when they suspect it?
Posted on 4/21/22 at 8:48 am to The Spleen
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This entire bill is over something that is very, very rare.
Apparently not judging by the tenacious resistance. Or is that just because it’s something Desantis could get a win with?
Posted on 4/21/22 at 8:48 am to The Spleen
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This entire bill is over something that is very, very rare.
Then why are progressives throwing a fit?
We save a couple of poor kids from indoctrination, and nothing else changes. WHy protest?
The revolution, is why, comrade.
This post was edited on 4/21/22 at 8:50 am
Posted on 4/21/22 at 8:48 am to JustinBRLA
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Focus hard on hot button issues that really don't matter,
Like not saying boys and girls in a greeting?
Not sure your point, but some people have decided not to cave into encouraging mental illness.
Every kid that walks through those gates is a boy or a girl. Disney chose the hill. Normal society chose to say frick off with your fairy tale thinking.
Posted on 4/21/22 at 8:49 am to The Spleen
quote:which is what makes the massive backlash to it so alarming.
This entire bill is over something that is very, very rare.
The backlash is what drove me to support the bill.
Posted on 4/21/22 at 8:50 am to Oilfieldbiology
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No K-3 student has this on their mind unless it’s being brought up to them by someone.
In comprehensive sex education programs that include elementary age kids they aren’t talking about sex like you do in HS sex ed. They’re talking about appropriate/inappropriate contact and basic biology (names of body parts).
An issue that comes up in investigating sexual abuse in kids that age is they’re not taught what is/isn’t appropriate touching because good majority of the people abusing them are parents/relatives/family friends who control that narrative.
Posted on 4/21/22 at 8:51 am to Roaad
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The backlash is what drove me to support the bill.
It's the exact same thing as the massive leftist backlash against anti-CRT legislation.
They insist it's not being taught in schools, yet scream bloody fricking murder when legislation is passed to keep it out of schools.
Funny that.
Posted on 4/21/22 at 8:51 am to Roaad
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The backlash is what drove me to support the bill.
Exactly. They're lying as usual. This is just to push the Alphabet people stuff, not to help kids.
The backlash pretty much proves it.
Posted on 4/21/22 at 8:51 am to lsupride87
quote:Again, you’re wrong. If a student wants to engage a guidance counselor, he or she can still do that. The guidance counselor is then in position to engage other authorities as appropriate. Same with the teacher. The opt out doesn’t mean these kids get locked away with zero access to these resources. It’s just what the resources can do in terms of counseling.
Usually abuse is notified through the guidance counselor, and now parents can opt out and their child will be prevented from going to the guidance counselor
Posted on 4/21/22 at 8:51 am to Roaad
tSpleen wishes he could delete that post
Posted on 4/21/22 at 8:52 am to lsupride87
quote:
you don’t think there are abused 5-10 year olds with sexual things on their mind?
What does abuse have to do with anything?
Posted on 4/21/22 at 8:54 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Schools are not the proper authority.
School staff in most states are considered mandatory reporters and can be criminally charged/fined if they neglect to report.
If a school counselor is unable to question a student, then that will lead to a lot of premature calls to CHFS that will further overwhelm the system and will likely lead to parents threatening to sue over an overzealous report.
Posted on 4/21/22 at 8:56 am to ell_13
quote:No, no I’m not. Look at the wording of the bill
Again, you’re wrong. If a student wants to engage a guidance counselor, he or she can still do that.
quote:That leaves the option for the parents to refuse any guidance counselor from talking to their kid without consent. So exactly how does the child report or talk to the guidance counselor now about abuse from home?
At the beginning of the school year, each school district shall notify parents of each healthcare service offered at their student’s school and the option to withhold consent or decline any specific service.
This post was edited on 4/21/22 at 8:59 am
Posted on 4/21/22 at 8:58 am to BluegrassBelle
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School staff in most states are considered mandatory reporters
Correct.
KIndergarten teachers are not child sex specialists nor are they law enforcement. Teachers do what they have always done and forward abuse complaints to proper authorities, which teachers are not one.
Posted on 4/21/22 at 8:59 am to Centinel
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They insist it's not being taught in schools, yet scream bloody fricking murder when legislation is passed to keep it out of schools.
Funny that.
Yeah..
Posted on 4/21/22 at 8:59 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:And how do they receives these abuse complaints now that the parents have the opportunity to refuse the children from speaking with the guidance counselor?
KIndergarten teachers are not child sex specialists nor are they law enforcement. Teachers do what they have always done and forward abuse complaints to proper authorities, which teachers are not one.
Posted on 4/21/22 at 9:00 am to Scruffy
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What does abuse have to do with anything?
They are grasping at straws now since they ran out of arguments
Posted on 4/21/22 at 9:02 am to lsupride87
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That leaves the option for the parents to refuse any guidance counselor
Guidance counselors are not abuse experts.
If a kid tells a teacher they've been abused, the process can go like it always goes and forward that to people who have actual investigative knowledge.
Posted on 4/21/22 at 9:02 am to BluegrassBelle
quote:if that is the biggest problem, it is not compelling
If a school counselor is unable to question a student, then that will lead to a lot of premature calls to CHFS that will further overwhelm the system
quote:you can sue over anything. Likelihood of frivolous lawsuits is not compelling.
will likely lead to parents threatening to sue over an overzealous report.
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