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re: With Disney dying on a hill for the LGBTQ+abcdlmnop people, is Universal making bank?
Posted on 4/21/22 at 9:03 am to The Spleen
Posted on 4/21/22 at 9:03 am to The Spleen
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This entire bill is over something that is very, very rare.
regardless, 1 teacher teaching K-3rd grade students gender / sexual identity without parental consent is too many. how would that ever be apart of their lesson plans for that age. And why would you defend their right to do so?
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Posted on 4/21/22 at 9:03 am to Centinel
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It's the exact same thing as the massive leftist backlash against anti-CRT legislation. They insist it's not being taught in schools, yet scream bloody fricking murder when legislation is passed to keep it out of schools. Funny that.
If the bills were strictly limited to just CRT, then that would be an different story.
The one here in Kentucky also restricts receiving private grant money for curriculum materials, gives very vague definitions on what can/can’t be taught (and allows for a mechanism that will force teachers teaching subjects like to Holocaust to also teach a denier’s perspective), and threw in language about hiring principles at schools. It also criminally charges teachers who violate the law, which legislatures claim they “accidentally” overlooked.
SB1 22 Kentucky Legislature
Posted on 4/21/22 at 9:04 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:You realize kids don’t just run up to their kindergarten teacher to say they are being abused right?
Guidance counselors are not abuse experts.
If a kid tells a teacher they've been abused, the process can go like it always goes and forward that to people who have actual investigative knowledge.
It’s ridiculous y’all are arguing against this. At my extremely conservative Catholic school it was mandatory once a quarter we spoke to the guidance counselor. They didn’t ask if we wanted to suck cock or lick buttholes, but they were simply there
Now, that can be taken away, and if you do so, you will miss abuse. Simple as that.
Posted on 4/21/22 at 9:05 am to JustinBRLA
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They just aren't bothered by the existence of gay people . DeSantis is a blowhard just like Trump. Focus hard on hot button issues that really don't matter, turn people against other people even though its of no consequence to themselves. Nothing to see there, just low-IQ shitty humans.
Show me where Trump, DeSantis or most any republican is “bothered by the existence of gay people”. This isn’t supporting the gay community, it’s throwing homosexuality in peoples faces every chance they get and if anyone dare say they’re tired of seeing it they will be deemed homophobic. You’re really showing your stupidity, but what else is new?
Posted on 4/21/22 at 9:05 am to Byrdybyrd05
Hooray for Dollywood.
Posted on 4/21/22 at 9:06 am to BluegrassBelle
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teach a denier’s perspective)
Here comes the cult.
What exactly is a denier? You progs have used this without ever being able to define it.
Is any alternative proposition "denial?"
Posted on 4/21/22 at 9:07 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Guidance counselors are not abuse experts.
I can’t speak for Alaska, but school counselors here in Kentucky go through state required training with their licensure to identify/interview regarding abuse and further reporting.
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If a kid tells a teacher they've been abused, the process can go like it always goes and forward that to people who have actual investigative knowledge.
Y’all are going to really enjoy everytime school staff has to call when a kid says “my Daddy hit me” without a school counselor helping determine whether it was just a spanking (which doesn’t get reported) or actual reportable abuse.
Posted on 4/21/22 at 9:07 am to CleanSlate
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“bothered by the existence of gay people”.
More prog speak.
Posted on 4/21/22 at 9:08 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Here comes the cult.
I belong to a cult because I don’t think a teacher who has to teach about the Holocaust should entertain a Holocaust denier’s perspective when teaching it?
I’m simply pointing out where some of the anti-CRT bills have evolved into much more.
This post was edited on 4/21/22 at 9:09 am
Posted on 4/21/22 at 9:08 am to BluegrassBelle
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The one here in Kentucky also restricts receiving private grant money for curriculum materials, gives very vague definitions on what can/can’t be taught (and allows for a mechanism that will force teachers teaching subjects like to Holocaust to also teach a denier’s perspective), and threw in language about hiring principles at schools. It also criminally charges teachers who violate the law, which legislatures claim they “accidentally” overlooked.
And none of this is why there is a massive backlash from the left.
Posted on 4/21/22 at 9:11 am to BluegrassBelle
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and further reporting.
Exactly as I said, and you still argue.
Teachers and education professionals are simply the middle man.
They report to actual authority.
You're not counseling kids aged 5-8 on sexuality unless there is something fricking wrong with you.
This post was edited on 4/21/22 at 9:12 am
Posted on 4/21/22 at 9:12 am to BluegrassBelle
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Holocaust denier’s
Do you even know what they are
?
You don't. You learned a new word and are wearing it out. No one denies the Holocaust. People quibble over details.
Stop looking at everything in extremes.
This post was edited on 4/21/22 at 9:14 am
Posted on 4/21/22 at 9:13 am to RogerTheShrubber
I see the passive-aggressive proggy downvote brigade is here.
Pride and Belle, while making tangential arguments to the central issue at hand, are at least defending their positions.
The usual suspects are just in here downvoting because they are unable to defend their position.
Pride and Belle, while making tangential arguments to the central issue at hand, are at least defending their positions.
The usual suspects are just in here downvoting because they are unable to defend their position.
Posted on 4/21/22 at 9:14 am to Centinel
tSpleen is the classic passive aggressive, I assume its him.
Posted on 4/21/22 at 9:15 am to BluegrassBelle
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In comprehensive sex education programs that include elementary age kids they aren’t talking about sex like you do in HS sex ed. They’re talking about appropriate/inappropriate contact and basic biology (names of body parts).
An issue that comes up in investigating sexual abuse in kids that age is they’re not taught what is/isn’t appropriate touching because good majority of the people abusing them are parents/relatives/family friends who control that narrative.
None of this has anything to do with this bill and the outrage from the left, though. The entire bill is all about parent's rights to information about their kids. This is the ONLY paragraph in a 6 page bill that even mentions the gender/sexuality stuff. This has NOTHING to do with mandatory reporting of abuse/neglect.
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3. Classroom instruction by school personnel or third parties on sexual orientation or gender identity may not occur in kindergarten through grade 3 or in a manner that is not age100 appropriate or developmentally appropriate for students in
Posted on 4/21/22 at 9:15 am to RogerTheShrubber
Is there some good reason you’ve lost the inability to quote full quotes?
They estimate 20% of people who have been sexually abused are under the age of 8. You don’t think a counselor has ever been told by a child that they’ve been touched inappropriately?
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You're not counseling kids aged 5-8 on sexuality unless there is something fricking wrong with you.
They estimate 20% of people who have been sexually abused are under the age of 8. You don’t think a counselor has ever been told by a child that they’ve been touched inappropriately?
Posted on 4/21/22 at 9:17 am to Byrdybyrd05
Universal is better than Disney unless you have kids younger than 7 or 8.
Posted on 4/21/22 at 9:18 am to BluegrassBelle
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They estimate 20% of people who have been sexually abused are under the age of 8.
And?
What does this have to do with discussing trannyism? Kids will still be able to tell if they are abused, schools can still pass it on like they have millions of times.
As usual, progs take something, add histrionics and make it a fairy tale.
Youre not allowed to discuss gender issues in your classroom with 5-8 year olds, and you're angry.
This post was edited on 4/21/22 at 9:19 am
Posted on 4/21/22 at 9:19 am to BluegrassBelle
a little off topic but Bob Chapek is fricking disaster for Disney. He has completely screwed up the park experience.
The dude needs to be fired yesterday, he is a dumpster fire.
The dude needs to be fired yesterday, he is a dumpster fire.
Posted on 4/21/22 at 9:19 am to lsupride87
You are expanding the law way beyond its intention or what it says. Kids can talk to who they want to. The law allows the parents to opt out of the guidance counselor function. The exact wording:
“At the beginning of the school year, each school district shall notify parents of each healthcare service offered at their student's school and the option to withhold consent or decline any specific service.”
This means that if a kid comes to any admin with an issue, but the parents have opted out, the counselor may not even be involved unless he or she was the original point of contact. But at that point, the school would be obligated to report their concerns to another authority. This doesn’t silence kids man.
“At the beginning of the school year, each school district shall notify parents of each healthcare service offered at their student's school and the option to withhold consent or decline any specific service.”
This means that if a kid comes to any admin with an issue, but the parents have opted out, the counselor may not even be involved unless he or she was the original point of contact. But at that point, the school would be obligated to report their concerns to another authority. This doesn’t silence kids man.
This post was edited on 4/21/22 at 9:26 am
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