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Will there ever be another "great awakening" in America?
Posted on 12/13/15 at 12:35 am
Posted on 12/13/15 at 12:35 am
Many people believe that religion is on a permanent decline in America. And there is no doubt that over the past 15 years or so, that has largely been the case.
However, there is some evidence that similar declines in religion that happened in the past were interrupted by periods of religious resurgence.
The most recent example of course being the 1980s. The counterculture movements that occurred in the 60s and 70s had significant strains of atheism and secularism associated with them. The adverse activities of this counterculture such as crime, drug use, and loafing around, however, came to be viewed by many as the result of a decline in religious practice and church-going.
Alas- the 1980s- when the religious right was born and sociologists noticed a very apparent surge in religious emphasis and adherence.
The very famous economic historian Robert Fogel, among other social scientists, has caused this social trend "the fourth great awakening".
That has largely ended however. Extremely effective modern day mass media, comedy, and a millennial generation that is perhaps the most "liberal" generation in American history has caused an obvious decline in the role of religion in this nation. Less and less people are identifying as christian, and socially permissive ideas as non-chalant abortion, homosexuality, and out of wedlock births are readily accepted and even glorified.
My question...... is this a permanent trend. Will serious social ills start to emerge that cause folks to seek out traditional answers again?
However, there is some evidence that similar declines in religion that happened in the past were interrupted by periods of religious resurgence.
The most recent example of course being the 1980s. The counterculture movements that occurred in the 60s and 70s had significant strains of atheism and secularism associated with them. The adverse activities of this counterculture such as crime, drug use, and loafing around, however, came to be viewed by many as the result of a decline in religious practice and church-going.
Alas- the 1980s- when the religious right was born and sociologists noticed a very apparent surge in religious emphasis and adherence.
The very famous economic historian Robert Fogel, among other social scientists, has caused this social trend "the fourth great awakening".
That has largely ended however. Extremely effective modern day mass media, comedy, and a millennial generation that is perhaps the most "liberal" generation in American history has caused an obvious decline in the role of religion in this nation. Less and less people are identifying as christian, and socially permissive ideas as non-chalant abortion, homosexuality, and out of wedlock births are readily accepted and even glorified.
My question...... is this a permanent trend. Will serious social ills start to emerge that cause folks to seek out traditional answers again?
Posted on 12/13/15 at 12:43 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
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Alas- the 1980s- when the religious right was born and sociologists noticed a very apparent surge in religious emphasis and adherence.
Really? I guess I was too busy bumping lines of cocaine to notice
Posted on 12/13/15 at 12:47 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
i'm sure there will be an uptick back at some point but the inner connectivity of man via the internet, globalization, and the flynn effect are going to cause a serious issue for the dominance of religion moving forward
Posted on 12/13/15 at 12:57 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
Yes but I think it will be the opposite of what you're thinking..
Posted on 12/13/15 at 1:04 am to DavidTheGnome
i think there is a huge cultural divide in America and religion, especially the Americanized form of evangelicalism, will become something seen in the lower culture more than in the elevated (and minority) culture. i also think the war on drugs is/will be a big catalyst in people moving away from religion.
Posted on 12/13/15 at 1:07 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
I think it would take a terrible disaster, like a meteor that destroys much of our civilization. Or a world wide nuclear war.
Posted on 12/13/15 at 1:09 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
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Will there ever be another "great awakening" in America?
I think a rapture is more likely.
Posted on 12/13/15 at 1:38 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
Interesting question, and one that I am hesitant to speculate on as a Christian. Personally, I'm not in favor of an awakening similar to historical ones. I hate a lot of the stuff that came out of the 80's movement- like contemporary Christian music and Christian t-shirt companies which sell t-shirts that spoof pop culture and make it "Christian" (for example, making "Abercrombie & Fitch" into "ABreadCrumb & Fish").
I'm all for the growth of Christianity, but if it's going to create nonsense like that or going to make more people who want to use the Bible to keep refugees out of the country and support a hatred of homosexuals, then no thank you. I wouldn't really see that as the church growing anyway.
But I do see it being possible. I think American culture is much more open to "spirituality" in some sense than some people think. We've seen a large uptick in folk religions and "spiritual but not religious" individuals.
I have more thoughts but I think I've vomited enough of them for now.
I'm all for the growth of Christianity, but if it's going to create nonsense like that or going to make more people who want to use the Bible to keep refugees out of the country and support a hatred of homosexuals, then no thank you. I wouldn't really see that as the church growing anyway.
But I do see it being possible. I think American culture is much more open to "spirituality" in some sense than some people think. We've seen a large uptick in folk religions and "spiritual but not religious" individuals.
I have more thoughts but I think I've vomited enough of them for now.
Posted on 12/13/15 at 1:56 am to Russell2Bowe
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uptick in folk religions and "spiritual but not religious" individuals.
Im all about some Deism.
Posted on 12/13/15 at 2:02 am to Russell2Bowe
quote:refugees that are accepting of us,and us of them is one thing...not accepting pieces of shite that want to blow us up is another.i think that has to do more with common sense than the bible.
Bible to keep refugees out of the country and support
Posted on 12/13/15 at 2:56 am to Russell2Bowe
You sound like a hippie.
Posted on 12/13/15 at 3:07 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
Your post seems to answer your question. Each generation responds to the previous generation. The pendulum swings back and forth only so far. The only difference, due to the speed of the spread of knowledge and the "meme culture", is the pendelum is swinging faster and faster. Each movement appears to be less permanent than the last.
Posted on 12/13/15 at 3:32 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
The information age has yielded a worldwide populous that is more educated now than people of any previous era. Education promotes scientific and logical thinking. Although not incompatible with religion, it does not bode well for its self proclaimed adherents. Science continues to shine new light on the darkness of mystery that people used to rely on religion to explain.
This is why there is a worldwide decline in self reported religious people. There is less need for people to turn to religion for answers. Although this may not fall easy on some of your eyes, I think an enlightened populous is more peaceful and productive and therefore is good for the future of humanity.
This is why there is a worldwide decline in self reported religious people. There is less need for people to turn to religion for answers. Although this may not fall easy on some of your eyes, I think an enlightened populous is more peaceful and productive and therefore is good for the future of humanity.
This post was edited on 12/13/15 at 10:45 am
Posted on 12/13/15 at 3:46 am to VanCleef
This isn't directed at you per se: Christians have contributed more to science historically than any worldview on the face of the earth. Science opposing Christianity is a false dichotomy used by simpletons.
Posted on 12/13/15 at 3:50 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
THis country needs a revival like the world has never known.
Posted on 12/13/15 at 5:25 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
No, don't see that happening. You must read and study the bible to understand what is about to take place. In the last days there will be a "falling away" from the faith which i believe has begun to happen. Also, people will be lovers of self, blasphemers, idolators,disrespectful of parents, etc.
Posted on 12/13/15 at 5:33 am to 3rdgentgr
Also a recent poll by the BBC found that 40% of brits think Jesus was not a real person. And that fewer than 10% attend church at least once a month or regularly read the Bible. That is in Britain, hate to see what it would be here un the US.
Posted on 12/13/15 at 5:34 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
Nope. The God of the Gaps is beginning to be filled in by science. Hard to see a reversal.
Posted on 12/13/15 at 7:09 am to Russell2Bowe
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contemporary Christian music
"Bobby, you're not making Christianity better... you're making rock-n-roll worse" -- Hank Hill
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